Art Monk vs. NFL

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Giantone
05-12-2012, 04:06 AM
Is anyone sueing any of the Hockey or Soccer leagues,Rugby.....basketball,point is all the sports players ,male and female have gotten concussions.....anyone take a 90mph fastball into one of those batting helmits? I might even understand if you're sueing the helmit makers ...Rydel but the NFL?If they(ex-players) want health coverage I understand that and agree with it ,retires should be coverd but to sue and say the NFL are responsible ,sorry I don't get it.

Hog1
05-12-2012, 09:27 AM
Is anyone sueing any of the Hockey or Soccer leagues,Rugby.....basketball,point is all the sports players ,male and female have gotten concussions.....anyone take a 90mph fastball into one of those batting helmits? I might even understand if you're sueing the helmit makers ...Rydel but the NFL?If they(ex-players) want health coverage I understand that and agree with it ,retires should be coverd but to sue and say the NFL are responsible ,sorry I don't get it.

Unfortunately, it just does not matter. Not sure if this law suit is justified or not but in this country, you can sue for anything.........
Damn, that McDonalds coffee is just tooo hot....I'm gonna' sue they're ass.
Looking for righteousness in our legal system is like looking for fiscal stability while playing the lottery......

SirClintonPortis
05-12-2012, 11:58 AM
These are grown men who made a choice to play football and could say no.I don't understand how you hold the league responsible ,anyone playing knows there is a chance they can get hurt at anytime.....or worse.
Most of these men have college degrees and surly were smart enough to know that concussions can cause brain injuries.The NFL changed what they did be it helmits or the way they test the players when the information changed
So if someone I knew dies from an illness and 20 years later they find a cure......can I sue becuase these Doctors should have learned about this illness sooner?

Unless MAYBE you are a bio, anatomy, maaaybe kinesiology major of some sort, or pre-med, you are not going to learn one dime about details of concussions as a undergraduate, not even nowadays. Hell, they might not teach that stuff for those who major in that subject.

And NFL culture(and other sport culture) treated physical pain as merely something in which you bite your teeth, get a painkiller, and go back out there. Not doing so would be considered soft.

SirClintonPortis
05-12-2012, 12:17 PM
Did they? Probably not. Would it have changed their decision? Probably not.



If I'm correct, people that smoked their whole lives won major lawsuits against the tobacco industry even though there wasn't any evidence at the time of lung cancer and smoking. (or that I know of)
Highly unlikely if your "just a guy" or "group of guys" doing the suing and the lawsuit was filed in the early 90s or before . The following article was written in 2000.
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Giantone
05-12-2012, 06:06 PM
Unfortunately, it just does not matter. Not sure if this law suit is justified or not but in this country, you can sue for anything.........
Damn, that McDonalds coffee is just tooo hot....I'm gonna' sue they're ass.
Looking for righteousness in our legal system is like looking for fiscal stability while playing the lottery......



lol....now on this we agree,ever read the warnings on a lawn mower or a ladder,maybe they should put warnings like "Play at your own risk" or "Being hit or hitting anyone while wearing this helmit may cause a concussion" on the equipment.

Mayor
05-14-2012, 10:45 PM
I think they should just give them all leather helmets again. That will keep the players from leading with their head. :)

REDSKINS4ever
05-15-2012, 12:01 AM
I think they should just give them all leather helmets again. That will keep the players from leading with their head. :)

Concussions were apart of the game even in the days of leather helmets. But in those days a lot of the players who sustained concussive injury played without a leather helmet.

MTK
05-15-2012, 12:10 AM
You don't even need to hit your head on anything to sustain a concussion. The helmets aren't the problem, it's the high speed collisions.

skinsfan69
05-15-2012, 08:35 AM
^ Got some stats to back that up?

I don't need stats. It's common sense.

Giantone
05-15-2012, 08:52 AM
how many former players actually have brain damage from playing football? a very very small number. it's just that the guys that actually did or do have it, it's been overplayed by the media. what about the thousands of guys that had numerous head hits and are fine?


....Not trying to be smartass here but did you ever play orginized football,high school or higher?Point is that we only see the games how many do you think got these concussions in practice or in scrimages etc?
First one one I got(from football) was in 7th grade playing for a rec team according to the coach..."I just got my bell rung".If you have played contact full tackle football over any amount of time you have had a concussion my be a small one ,might just seem like a small headach but you have had one.This is why I ask the question why blame and how do you prove it was all the NFL's fault I have no qualms with the players saying they have this condition at all.

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