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mlmpetert 08-03-2012, 09:26 AM Good read:
I Support Justin Durant And Chick-Fil-A « CBS Detroit (http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/08/02/i-support-justin-durant-and-chick-fil-a/)
Let me take this opportunity to applaud Lions linebacker Justin Durant. First of all, he made me laugh. Someone on Durant’s Twitter asked him if he would stop eating at Chick-Fil-A if the owner supported slavery. He tweeted back: “Chicken too tasty.” Good joke, and excellent use of fighting hyperbole with humor.
firstdown 08-03-2012, 09:43 AM First off, I've never claimed that churches didn't help people, nor did I say they didn't help feed the needy so not sure how you pulled that out of what I said. I said it's a shame they can't "go out of their way" to help the homeless like this. If I'm wrong about that, can you please show me where any lines were 3 hours long or cars backed up for miles just to help out the homeless and needy? I'll pull up a chair and wait on this...
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/292319_10150927580966642_629690956_n.jpg
FYI: I grew up in a christian home, I live in the bible belt, I went to a private christian school.
What is this posted for? I know what a soup kitchen is. You got any numbers of how many hours and money are put in by the church as opposed to non-church? I'll wait patiently.
Well, unions are there to help the workers fight off baron robbers. That said, I think unions can be, at times, destructive and inefficient in the grand scheme of things. I think you missed the whole point. The whole point was for me to list a few basic things that encompass our daily spending(gas, goods, savings) that are used for things we may not endorse. It's not that complicated, but if you would like me to submit a 20 page document, than I'll need you to pay pal me some money over for my time. :)
You seriously need me to tell you what the banks did?...lol Bailouts? Look at what's going on in the UK with LIBOR. Common man!
You have never been to a BBQ to raise money for a church which feeds the poor. People pack churches every week and they pass a tray to make donations. Hell just 3 months back we had over 500 people waiting in lines to buy food and beer to help the poor. Having a golf event on Sept 7 which will have around 140 golfers at $100 a man to raise money for the poor. I could a 100 pages on people gathering to help rais money for the poor so you can quit waiting. Maybe you should try joing an organization that helps the poor and you would actually see what people do to help them.
mlmpetert 08-03-2012, 10:16 AM This is really becoming so silly, its insane to see how this country is so media driven. Its really amazing.
Its rare we get to hear what companies support outside the business world unless its a charitable organization, I think lessen learned from Oreo's maker and Chickfila is to keep quiet. I dont mind when people or corporation use their first admendant right, even if I dont agree, but I sick of the god damn media and talking heads on cable and radio driving their extreme, hate filled rhetoric home.These people dont want to talk about the legit issue, they just want to throw punches. We get suckered into it and Chickfila in the end gets paid.
At first i thought CFA might lose Chick Fil A Bowl, but after the overwhelming support yesterday i dont see it happening. So I think from a business perspective all of this has been very good for Oreo and CFA.
Could not agree more about the media.
But i dont think this issue is going away anytime soon. Its probably gonna get worse. The Democratic Party just tenitvely voted to endorse same sex marriage:
Democrats Back Gay Marriage for Party Platform - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444405804577559362547995788.html)
This was before Chick Fil A Day so who knows if theyll backpeddel at all?
But I dont think federally supporting gay marriage does anything or could do anything in the next 20 or so years. Heck, the Civil Rights Act didnt even force states to allow interacial marriages. No chance we see an admendment for gay marraige anytime soon. Probably a decent chance at a Supreme Court ruling within 20 years, although im sure a ruling would be complicated.
Meanwhile the Republicans have boxed themselves in a corner, not for being anti gay marriage, but by being so positive traditional marriage. The answer should have always been that they personally think marriage is between 1 man and 1 women; however, that they believe the government has no business being in our bedrooms or being part of something that is ultimately a commitment between 2 people and God.
That gets the independent vote and retains nearly all of the base. Instead Republicans continue to preach small government while doing the opposite.
Alvin Walton 08-03-2012, 10:37 AM LMAO!
Watch this vid.
Vante exec makes video of himself harrasing a Chic Fil A employee.
His boss sees it and fires him.
What an idiot!
Vante CFO Bullies Chick-Fil-A Worker, Then Promptly Gets Fired For It - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/vante-cfo-bullies-chick-fil-a-worker-then-promptly-gets-fired-for-it-2012-8)
Chico23231 08-03-2012, 11:28 AM LMAO!
Watch this vid.
Vante exec makes video of himself harrasing a Chic Fil A employee.
His boss sees it and fires him.
What an idiot!
Vante CFO Bullies Chick-Fil-A Worker, Then Promptly Gets Fired For It - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/vante-cfo-bullies-chick-fil-a-worker-then-promptly-gets-fired-for-it-2012-8)
jeez, people are just effing morons. thats right go take it out on a cashier, wow. this guy was in a leadership position. Sell all of your stock in Vante immediately
SmootSmack 08-03-2012, 11:55 AM The cashier handled that very well. Much more composed than I would have been
skinsguy 08-03-2012, 12:06 PM I still don't understand why a company needs to have a stance on gay marriage.
Chicken with a side of homophobes, what a combo.
As Target the same question.
skinsguy 08-03-2012, 12:36 PM When you actively fund groups that lobby against the gay community, it's no longer "just a view." At that point, I believe that they should deny these companies right the to do business in their area if they see fit.
I posted this on facebook the other day and the message applies greatly here.
http://i.imgur.com/KJQDa.jpg
Most of the religious conservatives don't want the government to interfere in their lives, but have no problem insisting it does so in other people's lives. Irony. Hypocritical. Asinine.
I believe if you look closely enough, you'll find just as much hypocrisy on your end. Such as wanting all to recognize something they do not believe in as valid, which is how the Christian community would see legalized gay-marriage. So, you can't argue on both sides. If you truly want equality, you need to be arguing for the Marriage Law to end, not to be amended.
You can't expect everybody to see things the way you do, especially when you continue to spill hateful words and names their way. You'll never be taken seriously. Example, Fred Phelps. Nobody, including a large part of the Christian community, takes him and his group seriously. Until you recognize that you cannot force others, through your insults, to see and believe as you do, the issues will never be solved. That's a big part of a lot of these social issues. Both sides trying to force the other to see things the way they do, when everybody should have the right to their beliefs without ridicule.
The best thing to do is to end the marriage law completely. Nobody receives tax benefits, which of course would suck for married people, but ahh well...you'll adjust. Nobody is considered legally married, because marriage will be given back to the religious institution - where it was born from in the first place. The only caveat will be that everybody will be free to put whoever they wish on their insurance. It would no longer be a need for husbands and wives, since there would be no such thing, legally.
The legal system would be free of so many divorce cases, and those splitting up their "marriage" would not be forced to lose half of what they have earned over the years. Of course, you'd still need the legal system for custody of children, but divorce could be a lot less of a mess without the legal system in place (sorry for those here who are divorce lawyers.)
Finally, gays could come up with their own version of marriage if they so choose. Just like religious people would still continue to get married via a priest or pastor conducting the service. Religious people and others who are against homosexuality would no longer need to worry about ridicule from the PC "Lefties" who call them bigots for believing what the bible says. It would be none of your business. Just like gays being happily married would be none of the business of the religious right.
No harm no foul, one could go quietly observing his/her right-winged conservative ways, you could go on quietly hating religious people. :)
firstdown 08-03-2012, 12:54 PM http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/120803_chickfila_hmed_0745p.photoblog600.jpg
I never heard any hate from the owner of Chick'Fil-A. He just does not believe in gay marriage. If I'm correct I don't even think he said that and he said that he and CFA supported traditional mar. and families. Not sure how that considered hate. Some people think drinking is wrong and I drink but don't view their opinion as hate. Also heard some CFA have been vandalized.
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