North Carolina passes same-sex marriage ban

Nope, not going to get into a pissing match with you.

It wouldn't be a pissing match, merely an exchange of ideas or points of view but I accept your retraction.

It wouldn't be a pissing match, merely an exchange of ideas or points of view but I accept your retraction.

Somehow, I just don't see it being a mere exchange of ideas or points of view, because you have already painted yourself as a judgmental person who feels those who think differently than you are mentally handicapped. I don't trust someone who throws out that type of preemptive strike and then on the other hand wishes to 'merely exchange ideas and points of view.' You already set the stage to have anyone who wishes to 'exchange ideas' with you being on the defensive, and I'm not going to subject myself to that.

Anyway, this is not what this thread was supposed to be about. It was about the Marriage Amendment being passed in N.C. Feel free to go back a few pages and read my stance on the subject.

Somehow, I just don't see it being a mere exchange of ideas or points of view, because you have already painted yourself as a judgmental person who feels those who think differently than you are mentally handicapped.

Impaired judgement is being mentally handicapped? Poor choice of words.

I don't trust someone who throws out that type of preemptive strike and then on the other hand wishes to 'merely exchange ideas and points of view.' You already set the stage to have anyone who wishes to 'exchange ideas' with you being on the defensive, and I'm not going to subject myself to that.

If your position is untenable then I understand you being loath to attempt to defend it.

Anyway, this is not what this thread was supposed to be about. It was about the Marriage Amendment being passed in N.C. Feel free to go back a few pages and read my stance on the subject.

If you think that the Marriage Amendment and religion are separate issues in the debate I see why you won't discuss it.

Fair enough, I thank you for your comments. We'll leave it there.

GOP Rep. Lankford Explains Why It Should Be Legal To Fire Someone For Being Gay: 'It's A Choice Issue' | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/14/482200/lankford-fired-gay/?mobile=nc)


Why does it seem all the conservative + religious people are stupid as hell?


It's amazing how many people think that homosexuality is a choice.

Let's not start generalizing

For the people who do not understand the opposition to gay marriage are you not religious at all, atheist, or what? I'm neither but I understand the opposition.

Let's not start generalizing

I made the clear distinction of "why does it seem", and not a "why are all".

No generalizing was done here.

For the people who do not understand the opposition to gay marriage are you not religious at all, atheist, or what? I'm neither but I understand the opposition.

The problem here is that this amendment or any of the legislation being passed isn't asking if you agree with homosexuality. It's asking if you agree to give them equal rights. That's the problem here. By voting against it, it doesn't mean you are in favor of homosexuality.

If you were to ask most of the people voting for it, they were probably voting for it for the wrong reason and were "proving their morality" by denying gays rights. This is where I think ignorance plays a part. It's learning to find out what the real issue here is, and what am I really voting for and does that in some way change my morality. Most people went into it thinking "I do not believe in homosexuality, so therefore I'm voting in favor of anything against homosexuality, regardless of what harm it causes." Instead of saying......."I'm voting against anything that would restrict the rights of a fellow human being even though I do not agree with homosexuality."


According to the Bible, we should stone gay people. People of different religions should not marrying. Divorce is not a option.

So how about those beliefs? You want me to believe that they are voting because of their religious beliefs, yet they choose to ignore those other requirements set forth by their own religion. This isn't about their beliefs, it's about using their beliefs as a means to hate and discriminate against.

God is against pornography. (porn is one of biggest business on internet) This value is ignored.
God is against divorce. ....yet divorce rate is well above 50%. This value is ignored.
God is against crime. Crime rates are high. This value is ignored.
God is against destroying your body. (obesity rates sky high, smokers, drinkers) This value is ignored.

God is against gays. OMG WE MUST HOLD TRUE TO OUR VIRTUES AND MORALITY.


Yeah guys, we aren't really going to hold to our morality ground unless it involves gay people!! THEN we'll make a stand!!

GOP Rep. Lankford Explains Why It Should Be Legal To Fire Someone For Being Gay: 'It's A Choice Issue' | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/14/482200/lankford-fired-gay/?mobile=nc)


Why does it seem all the conservative + religious people are stupid as hell?


It's amazing how many people think that homosexuality is a choice.

You have no room to talk after that comment.

House rejects Thorne-Begland for judgeship as social conservatives prevail | Richmond Times-Dispatch (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/news/2012/may/15/12/house-of-delegates-rejects-thorne-begland-for-judg-ar-1914948/)

House of Delegates embarrassing again.