CRedskinsRule
05-03-2012, 08:55 AM
I disagree. I've seen depression and other mental related issues plague and impact the best. Depression requires treatment, effort and luck. Its very naive to think coaching or whatever would've prevented this. You don't just say "oh OK I'm depressed".
The way you talk about depression makes me think you have little understanding about it.
Well said
hooskins
05-03-2012, 11:48 AM
Events like this remind most of us that we dont understand depression. And because of that, when it happens to us, we dont know what to do about it.
I'm by no means an expert, but I've been around family/friends who have gone through this type of stuff and read enough medical journals and research to know you can't reach a broad generalization/conclusion for depression. There are many factors that cause and help address depression.
That's what I know and understand.
Monkeydad
05-03-2012, 12:10 PM
Will never happen I know you should never say never but theres to much $$$$$ in this game/business.
Sure there will be a movement.
There's big money in the energy industries and there are still insane radical activists protesting to ban every type of energy that's not from the clouds or sun...and energy is much more of a necessity in life than sports.
Some groups want to ban meat. Others, religion.
There will definitely be a liberal movement to ban sports someday, if there's not a quiet one going on already, but we'll crush them. It will never be allowed to happen. Even Congress would not allow it. They think sports are so important that they're spending our tax money right now in an unnecessary trial to see if a pitcher lied about cheating in baseball. They understand the social and economic importance of sports, that's why they're always meddling in it to do what they THINK is good for the sports.
I read that he is now the 8th member of the Chargers SB Team in 94 to have died.. Weird
Death Is Stalking The 1994 Chargers (http://deadspin.com/5867720/death-is-stalking-the-1994-chargers)
Death Is Stalking The 1994 Chargers
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17lhabvpf3nvwjpg/medium.jpg (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17lhabvpf3nvwjpg/original.jpg)It is the plot of the least likely Final Destination sequel ever: members of the 1994 AFC Champion Chargers have been dying premature deaths. Even more premature than the average CTE-doomed football player: with Lew Bush's death last week, (http://www.chargers.com/news/article-1/Former-Charger-Lew-Bush-passes-away/762bf2d3-dfb2-4303-91c4-f471a52bfb2a) seven players from that Super Bowl team have passed away before the age of 45.
• Five months after that Super Bowl, LB David Griggs drove his car off a freeway ramp and slammed into a sign pole. (http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/21/obituaries/david-griggs-football-player-28.html) Subsequent tests would show that his blood alcohol level was twice the legal limit. (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1995-07-09/sports/9507090129_1_david-griggs-dolphins-alcohol)
• In 1996, RB Rodney Culver and his wife were aboard ValuJet FLight 592 from Miami to Atlanta when it crashed into the Everglades, killing all on board. (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1998/03/the-lessons-of-valujet-592/6534/)
• In 1998, LB Doug Miller was struck by lightning while camping in Colorado. (http://lubbockonline.com/stories/072398/LS0438.shtml) CPR was being performed on Miller when he was struck again by a second bolt.
• In 2008, C Curtis Whitley was found dead in his trailer in Texas. Whitley had a history of substance abuse and had twice been suspended by the NFL, and toxicology results pointed to an accidental overdose. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d80850307/printable/former-center-whitley-found-dead-in-texas-trailer-home)
• Also in 2008, DE Chris Mims was discovered facedown on the bathroom floor of his Los Angeles apartment. (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/jun/07/1n7mims225244-fallen-stars-burnout/) An autopsy revealed an enlarged heart, and Mims weighed 456 pounds at his death.
• Earlier this year, DT Shawn Lee died from cardiac arrest brought on by years of complications with diabetes. (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/feb/28/former-chargers-dl-shawn-lee-dead-44/)
• On Thursday, Bush suffered a heart attack at his home in San Diego. Since retiring in 2002, friends say he had struggled with his weight.
A combination of freak accidents and typical post-football life demises. This is a statistical anomaly, not the spectral fingers of death personified plucking Bobby Ross's squad from this mortal plane. Still: football is a really, really dangerous game.
Update (May 2, 2012): Junior Seau is dead, an apparent suicide (http://deadspin.com/5907073).
CultBrennan59
05-03-2012, 11:52 PM
Still can't believe he is dead. A great player. My question --as is a lot of our's main question is --"Why?" Why did he kill himself? His life was great. A lot of people who had seen him were saying he seemed normal. Why was killing himself the answer? We are going to find out a lot more in the next upcoming days and weeks.
His life obviously wasn't as great as it appeared from a distance.
A lot of these guys know nothing but playing football, and when their careers are over they're lost.
20 years of getting your head rattled around can't help either.
skinsfan69
05-04-2012, 12:10 AM
Hearing all these people on tv and radio today makes this so much worse. A lot of people really cared about him. I just wonder why no one ever saw that he really needed some serious help.
CultBrennan59
05-04-2012, 12:22 AM
^ Hank Baugher a form great of the Chargers at RB said he saw Junior a few weeks ago and that Junior appeared normal and saw nothing wrong with him.
DynamiteRave
05-04-2012, 12:46 AM
Hearing all these people on tv and radio today makes this so much worse. A lot of people really cared about him. I just wonder why no one ever saw that he really needed some serious help.
That's the thing with a lot of people with depression/sucide issues, many times they tend to fall into 1 of 2 categories:
They're either talking about it all the time or its obvious they need help
or
They're hiding it so well, you think nothing's wrong with them.
Unfortunately it seems that Seau fell into the latter.
Giantone
05-04-2012, 04:52 AM
Hearing all these people on tv and radio today makes this so much worse. A lot of people really cared about him. I just wonder why no one ever saw that he really needed some serious help.
While in College(decades ago) I had a psychology Professor that had a interesting take on this ....."everyone at some point in their lives will consider this ",she said that it might be while young and in school or older and retired but at some point in life you will consider it.People under this type of stress will hide it well till it gets overwhelming and if the means are available at that time then the result is not good.
SmootSmack
05-04-2012, 07:39 AM
Family of Junior Seau will allow his brain to be studied - latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-junior-seau-brain-study-20120503,0,1280862.story)