Is excitement enough in 2012?

Our 5-11 record last year was a bad 5-11.
Gifted 2 games by the Giants who simply didn't turn up for either game and victories over the hapless Cards and the woeful Rams hardly inspires confidence for much improvement.

2-14 to 4-12 is not unlikely.

No way they fall that far. I'm saying 8-8 or 9-7. Either record would be a solid first year with RG3.

8-8 9-7 is where I'm at as well. Team has talent, but Griffin isn't going to hop in day 1 and be lights out. He still needs to learn and I don't expect him to really pick it up till about week 5-6. We'll see though.

Reason for optimism after the year Newton and Dalton had last year. RG3 has more talent around him than Newton had.

I just want to see a competitive team. I can't quantify that in number of wins, it's subjective, I'm more concerned with the level of effort. There were times last year where I knew the team was going to fold late in the game. I want the opposite feeling. I want to see a team that has a chance to pull off the victory. The offense has been so disappointing, for so long, I just want to see scoring. The defense will be okay.

He did, but he was on a horrible team.

How did Manning do statistically wise his rookie year? I can imagine with good qb play on a horrible team you should be able to win more than 2 games.

Didn't most people around here think we were going to win 8-10 games last year?

Didn't most people around here think we were going to win 8-10 games last year?

I felt like it was going to depend on which version of Rex Grossman showed up. If he played consistently good football I felt 8-8 to 10-6 was reasonable, but if he played crappy than we'd have another crappy season. I didn't see the Beck hiccup coming though. Obviously the latter happened.

How did Manning do statistically wise his rookie year? I can imagine with good qb play on a horrible team you should be able to win more than 2 games.

Up until last year he had the most passing yards in a season as a rookie, but he was upside down with TDs to INTs. He threw almost 30 picks I believe.

I was talking with one of the odds makers at a popular casino with a roman theme. He Told me the over under on redskins wins next year is looking like its going to be set at 6.5.

I would take the under. I put us about 6-10z.

Peyton Manning rookie stats:

rating: 71.2
comp pct: 56.7
yards: 3739
y/a: 6.5
TD: 26
INT: 28

if the offense struggles and our loses are in the double digits, Snyder will give Shanny the ultimatum either fire Kyle or both of you are leaving. Kyle's got so much to prove this year its not funny.

excitement is not enough this yearI hold the opinion that no matter what happens with this season, Snyder is going to invite RGIII to his home at the end of it and is going to ask him very bluntly if he thinks Mike and Kyle's system plays to his strengths or not. He's going to ask Mr. Griffin if he honestly feels he can be a success in it.

If he says yes, they will be here 2013-1014.

If he says no, they're gone ... or at the least there will be an ultimatum; i.e., your boy goes and you get a new OC in here or you both go.

It's as simple as that, IMO, unless we went to the Superbowl. Snyder isn't going to let Mike and Kyle ruin RGIII. He gave up a lot to get him and I think he knows it's in the organization's best interests to do everything to make sure he succeeds, and if Mike and Kyle gotta go for that to happen, then they gotta go...