Kirk Cousins pick 4.7

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MTK
05-02-2012, 10:51 AM
So, in everyone's opinion, how does preseason work? Does Grossman see any snaps, or is it Griffin 2-3 quarters, Cousins the rest? Or does Grossman act as a buffer between the two?

Definitely think it's wise to keep Grossman as the #2 this year as that buffer.

tc2deuce
05-02-2012, 01:51 PM
Stephen A Smith just told the truth on PTI about this issue

ArtMonkDrillz
05-02-2012, 02:02 PM
Stephen A Smith just told the truth on PTI about this issueWas he answering the third question?!?!

SBXVII
05-02-2012, 02:09 PM
Was he answering the third question?!?!

Well you know how third questions go...... he'd be wise to avoid it. But..... what do I know.

donofriose
05-02-2012, 03:17 PM
Waste of a pick but the likely hood of your 4th round pick being a significant starter is low. But there isn't any question who the starter is in Shanahan's mind. he is tied to RG3 and not to Cousins. Cousins isn't going to push RG3. RG3 knows he has at least 3 years as a starter no matter who his back up is.

mooby
05-02-2012, 03:21 PM
Stephen A Smith just told the truth on PTI about this issue

That solves it! Every question I've ever had has just been answered! Mind = blown.

30gut
05-02-2012, 03:53 PM
Anybody tell you that drafted bad... If, If, if a draft analyst say I missed on a pick, and y'all hear it, then that's that.

I mean, I might have missed one pick this year but if, if somebody say he doesn't draft right in the 4th round, it could be one pick. Out of all the picks this year, that's enough... that's enough to get a whole lot started. I told Coach Shanahan that you don't have to give the people of D.C. a reason to think about trading RGIII or anything like that. If you trade for somebody, you trade them to make the team better...simple as that. I'm cool with that. I'm all about that. The people in D.C. deserve to have a winner. It's simple as that. It goes further than that ...


If I can't draft a backup QB, I can't draft one. If my starter gets hurt, he's hurt. I mean ... simple as that. It aint about that... I mean its... Its not about that... At all. You know what I'm saying I mean...

But its...its easy ... to, to talk about... It's easy to sum it up when you're just talking about 4th round pick. We're sitting in here, and I'm supposed to be the General Manager, and we in here talking about a 4th round pick. I mean, listen, we're talking about 4th round pick, not a 1st rounder, not a 2nd rounder, not even a 3rd rounder, we talking about a 4th round pick. Not a 1st!! Not, not ... Not the 1st rounder that I go out there and trade a ton of picks for. Not the 1st rounder, but we're talking about 4th rounders, man. I mean, how silly is that? ...Allen? Is that you? How is Italy?

-I am at working laughing like a crazy person right now.
Seriously, people are looking at me.

Post of the year

BigHairedAristocrat
05-02-2012, 04:46 PM
Stephen A Smith just told the truth on PTI about this issue

would you mind sharing what he said? (or is it what ncskins posted)

31 other teams had a chance to pick him anywhere between 2 and 4 times before we picked him up and they didnt. he's a bloody fourth round pick for goodness sake. Rex is a good mentor/#3 but hes a guy you NEVER want to see step onto the field. Backup QB was a HUGE need for this team. The 4th round is the PERFECT place to draft a BACKUP QUARTERBACK.

The media keeps saying we had so many other needs and suggest we should have gone OL or DB with that pick. Thats the part of the media criticism that bothers me the most. There is not a single other player we could have picked up at that point that would project to be an immediate starter. ANYONE we could have picked would probalby not see the field as a starter until 2013 or 2014. I just want someone to ask the media critics this:

Whats more important - A backup cornerback/linebacker/OL or a backup quarterback?

Which would hurt the team more - Josh wilson going down and Kevin Barnes filling in or RGIII going down and Grossman filling in?

What backup cornerback/linebacker/OL is better at their position than Cousins is at his?

ethat001
05-02-2012, 09:52 PM
According to Graziano, 14 teams started the same QB all season last year. That means there is a 67% chance our backup sees action over one year, and virtual certainty that our backup will start multiple games over the next 10-15 years. Add to that a QB that can run / take hits, and one that has already missed a year with an injury.. I think this was a great move.

In comparison, our 4th round picks for the past ~2 decades:
2011 - 4th - Roy Helu RB
2010 - 4th - Perry Riley LB
2008 - 4th - Justin Tryon CB
2005 - 4th - Manuel White FB
2001 - 4th - Sage Rosenfelds QB
2000 - 4th - Michael Moore G
1999 - 4th - Nate Stimson LB
1998 - 4th - Shawn Barber LB
1997 - 4th - Albert Connel WR


For the past 15 years, 3 out of 8 fourth round picks ended up being... average. Riley and Helu could do more, but for now we should say they're passable / average. I'd say Cousins is a MUCH safer pick in a position of need. With near certainty of playing multiple games over the next decade, a good backup QB makes the difference between winning/losing, and competing when the unthinkable happens (think TJ Yates, Cassel @ NE, Flynn).

And I agree completely that if New England, the Steelers or Ravens make this pick, everyone would be saying it was pure genius. But to be fair - we haven't done much over the past 20 years to deserve any credit -- yet. RG3 and Shanahan hopefully will change our reputation so our moves won't be questioned in the future..

tc2deuce
05-02-2012, 10:02 PM
Cousins Pick A Mistake For Redskins? - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNXtyTl1Ono)

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