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firstdown 02-11-2005, 12:40 PM Porter's upside is much higher than Gardner's. He really broke out once Kerry Collins took over. Didn't he convert to WR from QB or something? He's still coming in to his own at the position.His numbers did look much better in 04 and my 3 yr stat for tds was wrong he has 19. Nine in 04.
is porter and his 20 million dollar contract that much of an upgrade over what we have now in thrash and jacobs?
porter only had 67 receptions and 3 100+ yard games. he is a guy that was drafted high and has underachieved his while career.
there is no point in bringing him in, he wants alot of money with little performance. if thrash is #2 wr next year, he can get 67 catches.
Porter is definitely an upgrade over Thrash and Jacobs. Thrash is not a starting WR, and Jacobs is still an unknown.
saden1 02-11-2005, 02:23 PM I wouldn't pay more than 20 million to this clown. Yes, he scores TD's but overall his numbers aren't so hot. Nor is his running and catching abilities. 20 million is a stretch and anything more than 8 million in SB is a lot more than he deserves.
firstdown 02-11-2005, 02:30 PM Porter is definitely an upgrade over Thrash and Jacobs. Thrash is not a starting WR, and Jacobs is still an unknown.I don't think that is how we should view this. Is he an upgrade over Gardner is the real question?
SmootSmack 02-11-2005, 02:34 PM Porter's upside is much higher than Gardner's. He really broke out once Kerry Collins took over. Didn't he convert to WR from QB or something? He's still coming in to his own at the position.
How do you figure his upside is bigger? I don't think he converted from QB. I think you're thinking of Ronald Curry.
I don't think that is how we should view this. Is he an upgrade over Gardner is the real question?
Look at their respective seasons this year:
Porter: 64 catches, 998 yards and 9 TD's. 17 catches from 20 yards or more, 5 from 40 or more.
Gardner: 51 catches, 650 yards and 5 TD's. 7 catches from 20 yards or more, 3 from 40 or more.
They're both similar as far as size, but Porter is faster and more of big play guy. Anybody remember when he lit up Champ Bailey for 135 yards and 3 scores?
I'm not saying I necessarily want him, but if given the choice of Porter or Burress I think I would lean towards Porter. And given the choice of Porter or Thrash/Jacobs, definitely Porter. Thrash is a solid #3/4 and is great on special teams, but he's not starting quality as we saw from his time in Philly. I like Jacobs potential but he's a total unknown at this point.
How do you figure his upside is bigger? I don't think he converted from QB. I think you're thinking of Ronald Curry.
Yeah I was probably thinking of Curry.
Looks like Porter did a bit of everything in college:
COLLEGE: Lettered three seasons at West Virginia...All-Big East Conference selection as an all-purpose back...Saw action as a free safety in the first five games, filled in as an emergency quarterback vs. Rutgers and then finished the second half of the season as a flanker...Recorded 28 tackles with a 68-yard interception return for a touchdown and a pass deflection...Caused a fumble and had a stop for a 4-yard loss...Also blocked a kick...Fifth on the team with 15 receptions for 311 yards (20.7 avg.) and four touchdowns...Gained 52 yards on six carries (8.7 avg)...Completed 3 of 6 passes (50.0 percent) for 20 yards...Also had a 16-yard kickoff return...Opened the season with 5 tackles, including one for a 4-yard loss against East Carolina and in the next week against Miami of Ohio, blocked a punt, returned an interception 68 yards for a touchdown and posted 8 tackles...Caught 3 passes for 64 yards, including a 44-yarder that set up game-winning score in a 20-17 decision over Temple...Vs. Miami, grabbed 5 passes for 75 yards, including a 43-yard touchdown on opening drive...Closed out his career by hauling in 3 passes for 139 yards with touchdowns of 77 and 54 yards against Pittsburgh...As a junior, All-Big East Conference selection after starting every game at free safety...In on 63 tackles with five interceptions and five passes defensed...Gained 129 yards on eight kickoff returns (16.1 avg)...Recovered an onside kickoff, returning the ball 29 yards, deflected a pass and came up with 12 tackles against Ohio State...Posted three straight six-tackle performances - against Rutgers, Miami of Florida and Temple...Appeared in every game, seeing action at free safety and flanker as a sophomore...Caught 13 passes for 280 yards and three touchdowns...Recorded 10 tackles...Gained 33 yards on 3 catches and blocked a field goal, which he recovered in the third overtime against Pitt...Vs. Georgia Tech in Carquest Bowl, hauled in 4 passes for 124 yards with touchdowns of 74 and 21 yards, and made 3 tackles...Also a member of the West Virginia Track team running in the 50- and 60-meter and also participating in the long jump...Ran indoor track as well...Education major.
Redskins_P 02-11-2005, 03:15 PM Yeah I was probably thinking of Curry.
Looks like Porter did a bit of everything in college:
COLLEGE: Lettered three seasons at West Virginia...All-Big East Conference selection as an all-purpose back...Saw action as a free safety in the first five games, filled in as an emergency quarterback vs. Rutgers and then finished the second half of the season as a flanker...Recorded 28 tackles with a 68-yard interception return for a touchdown and a pass deflection...Caused a fumble and had a stop for a 4-yard loss...Also blocked a kick...Fifth on the team with 15 receptions for 311 yards (20.7 avg.) and four touchdowns...Gained 52 yards on six carries (8.7 avg)...Completed 3 of 6 passes (50.0 percent) for 20 yards...Also had a 16-yard kickoff return...Opened the season with 5 tackles, including one for a 4-yard loss against East Carolina and in the next week against Miami of Ohio, blocked a punt, returned an interception 68 yards for a touchdown and posted 8 tackles...Caught 3 passes for 64 yards, including a 44-yarder that set up game-winning score in a 20-17 decision over Temple...Vs. Miami, grabbed 5 passes for 75 yards, including a 43-yard touchdown on opening drive...Closed out his career by hauling in 3 passes for 139 yards with touchdowns of 77 and 54 yards against Pittsburgh...As a junior, All-Big East Conference selection after starting every game at free safety...In on 63 tackles with five interceptions and five passes defensed...Gained 129 yards on eight kickoff returns (16.1 avg)...Recovered an onside kickoff, returning the ball 29 yards, deflected a pass and came up with 12 tackles against Ohio State...Posted three straight six-tackle performances - against Rutgers, Miami of Florida and Temple...Appeared in every game, seeing action at free safety and flanker as a sophomore...Caught 13 passes for 280 yards and three touchdowns...Recorded 10 tackles...Gained 33 yards on 3 catches and blocked a field goal, which he recovered in the third overtime against Pitt...Vs. Georgia Tech in Carquest Bowl, hauled in 4 passes for 124 yards with touchdowns of 74 and 21 yards, and made 3 tackles...Also a member of the West Virginia Track team running in the 50- and 60-meter and also participating in the long jump...Ran indoor track as well...Education major.
Just by reading that it looks like Porter would be a good fit in New England! He could take Troy Browns spot on offense, defense, and special teams.
Wow, I never knew he did so much in college!
diehardskin2982 02-11-2005, 03:24 PM Porter is good, he may come for a cheaper $ than what u expect. He just wants to leave the Raiders, it similar to Champ because champ seemed not to care what we offered him he wanted to leave. I personly would draft williams and go after givens from the pats. I like porter he' s a great guy but I want a rookie youth to come in so they'll be here for more than just 2 years
he's an awesome athelet though i remember one year he went to a Giants benefit and hit a homer in MLB park, he has pure athletic talent
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