How would you rank him?

Fortunately there's a Chick's Sports that does some good plate and number work for me. $15 saves an authentic from being an embarrassment.

Yeah, I'm thinking of making my Champ jersey....a Kelvin Bryant jersey!

CBs above smoot in no order

ronde barber, surtain, law, bailey, mcalister, winfield, springs, clements, mckenzie, dunta robinson, bly...i have him at 13th best. i think he beats out madison at this stage in his career, rolle, sheppard, etc.

Antoine Winfield just got a 6 year $35 million deal with a $10.8 million signing bonus. That's about what we offered Smoot and he's not as good as Winfield (who's far more physical).

We all agree that he's asking for to much money. This is where the Redskins run into trouble all the time. They give other teams players above market deals and then they expect their own players to stay for market or below market deals. When a loyal current Redskin sees outsiders handed the keys to the cookie jar they end up slighted if they are not treated in the same manner. In pro sports money equals love and respect. I think if the Redskins start treating all free agents with a level hand no matter what jersey they wore last year they will find negotiations easier in the future.

As for his ranking I would agree with the previous posts that place him around 15th.

I'd say he's in the 10-15 range, probably closer to 10. So much of rating CB's is subjective.....someone can have a "great year" with a lot of stats, or they can not have the stats because they are doing their job, and the ball isn't thrown their way. I think Smoot usually falls somewhere in between, and I agree with RedskinRat in that he "plays bigger than he is." The past couple years he has really worked on his tackling and toughness, and I love the way he just throws his body around to make a tackle.
He is asking for too much, but I truly hope he and Skins can compromise and work out a deal to keep him around. It will be interesting if they don't, he becomes a free agent and doesn't get offers for the $$$ he wants...would he come back to the Skins' offer???

should we be comparing Smoot to all corners or just those on the market right now?

We all agree that he's asking for to much money. This is where the Redskins run into trouble all the time. They give other teams players above market deals and then they expect their own players to stay for market or below market deals. When a loyal current Redskin sees outsiders handed the keys to the cookie jar they end up slighted if they are not treated in the same manner. In pro sports money equals love and respect. I think if the Redskins start treating all free agents with a level hand no matter what jersey they wore last year they will find negotiations easier in the future.

DING DING DING - I believe we have a winner! I can't remember how many times I have heard Skins FA's say "I just wanted to be treated like the guys they bring in from other teams" (Jansen pops to mind).

Give Smoot a ride in Redskin 1, hell let him fly the damn thing and stop overpaying for other teams FA's (though I think they did a better job of that last year - other than Brunnell).

As for Smoot's ranking - there are 64 starting corners in the league, I think he is in the 20-30 range myself. Good 2nd corner but not a true number 1. Just don't think he covers well enough to match up against the top receiver week in and week out.

Guys, that's the name of the free agency game, you have to overpay to lure players away.

There are plenty of teams around the league that refuse to overpay for their own players, the Patriots with Milloy, the Steelers with too many players to keep track of and the Redskins to a similar extent.

When Champ was here, they were a hell of duo. Thats why Joe let Gregg Williams pick Sean Taylor instead of Winslow last year. Because he sold champ to improve the offense with Portis. He is an excellent number 2. And a slightly above average 1. With help from the safeties he is pretty good. He's just so small to get involved consistently in the outside run defense. He did do better this year though.

I wish we had players like Brady who just wanted to play for the love of the game and deal with the fact that even a MILLION dollars is more than a lot of people will earn in their lifetimes.