Return Of Lavar

[QUOTE=offiss]Matty you pretty much summed up my feeling's on Lavar we are paying him way to much money for what he bring's to the field, if he was paid like an average LB or there about's I would be fine, but to blow our cap out of the water for any LB other than lawerence Taylor is dumb on management's part, but if you except that kind of contract you better be able to justify it with your play and he never has.




when did lavar sign that contract ? what is the amount of money he will cost the skins against the cap, year by year, until the end of his contract ?

Lavar makes plays for hell sure everyone on this defense has gotten better or has been able to show their true talent for example Bowen is a good compareson we don't know if Bowen just all of a sudden became amazing because we only saw that one game but I do remember in the preseason Lavar had a similar game against the Falcons, He forced that fumble on Vick and actually sacked that guy who broke 2 nice breaks in the Pro Bowl. Lavar showed us that he fit well he didn't overpersue Vick at all he did this repetevly in the first quarter of that game and he and springs blitzing along with Bowen showing blitz led us to have a 24-0 lead against possibley the second best team in the NFC. All I'm saying is that it is quite possible that Lavar has gotten better just has most of our team I mean Smoot I always felt was good but I think he has proven it, also Bowen seemed better and I think we could hope the same of LAVAR. Springs once again put himself back with the big dogs in the leage and Griffin is showing his true potential. I just think Williams finds players strengths and then expliots them and if we had Lavar back we would be MUCH MUCH better due to his speed on blitzes, we blitz alot during that first game with Bowen and Arrington but as the season progressed we saw less elaborate blitzes. I just think that we should talk about how overrated a player is just because he hadn't been able to prove himself.

BOTTOM LINE I TRAILED OFF- WITHOUT WILLIAMS OUR DEFENCE PROLLY WOULDN'T BE SO GOOD AND IF WE WERE TO SUCK AND ARRINGTON WAS OUT YOU ALL WOULD BE COUNTING THE DAYS TO SEE ARRINGTON COME BACK. IT FEELS LIKE MANY OF YOU FEEL THAT WE DON'T NEED HIM OR HE IS OVERRATED AND OTHER PLAYERS ARE BETTER BECAUSE WE WERE SO GOOD AND YOU DON'T REMEMBER HIM BEING AS GOOD. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETLY BUT I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY SEEING THAT EVERYONE ELSE IMPROVED THAT HE WOULD TO, I DON'T THINK HE SPENDS ALL OF HIS TIME THINKING ABOUT 6 MILLION DOLLARS....... THATS WHAT SMOOT DOES. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL BELIEVE THAT HE DOESN'T CONCETRATE ON THE COMING GAME AND DOESN'T LOOK AT FILM, IF YOU HAVE REASONING PLEASE TELL ME I AM WILLING TO HEAR IT I AM NOT JUST DESMISSING IT

BIGSKINBAUER OUT
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From what I was able to understand from your post you're basing one good PRESEASON performance and judging him by that.

Stop judging anything by pre-season. Otherwise the 2nd year in Spurriers reign we would have been Super Bowl Champs.

How's are defense been with Lavar on the field? We haven't stopped anyone, with Lavar out this year we were #1 most of the year and finished in the top 3, and what a comparison for Lavar to an undrafted journeymen in Marshall, .

LAVAR BEING OUT DIDN'T MAKE OUR DEFENSE BETTER I THINK YOUR THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS THREAD THAT THINKS THAT AND IF ANYONE ELSE FEELS THIS WAY SAY SO CLEARLY. WILLIAMS IS THE SOLE REASON WHY WE ARE BETTER NOT BECAUSE OUR BEST PLAYER IS SITTING OUT

what he is saying is that every player who played on the skins defense this past year played better than they ever have before , they all improved. it is fair to say lavar would have improved just as well. and he was already the best defensive player on the team.

BigSKINBauer - your capital letters gets really annoying. It's not necessary. We'll read your post without them. There's no need to make punctuation harsh on the eyes.

We made a lot of big changes to our defense. Springs, Taylor, Washington, Daniels, Griffen, etc. I'm not taking anything away from Greg Williams, he has done an amazing job everywhere he's gone, but I feel we added a lot of talent to our defense too. I think Offiss has said that we'd be better off with LaVar in. However his contract doesn't measure up to his play. He's the highest paid linebacker in sports, and I'd be curious for someone to ask Williams who he'd rather have. Takeo Spikes or Lavar Arrington, maybe I can remember that for Joe's camp interviews! Lavar isn't exactly a "team player" see Marvin Lewis's defense. He'd complain about getting in the 3 point stance, always wants to freelance, etc. He has some big attitude changes to be a top LB in the league as far as I'm concerned.

In fairness to LaVar though, he did say last summer that he was wrong to question Marvin Lewis and understands now why he wanted him to play the way he did. So I think he has matured. Guess we'll find out soon enough

. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETLY BUT I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY SEEING THAT EVERYONE ELSE IMPROVED THAT HE WOULD TO, I DON'T THINK HE SPENDS ALL OF HIS TIME THINKING ABOUT 6 MILLION DOLLARS....... THATS WHAT SMOOT DOES.

BSB, that statement is so far off base it's almost not worthy of a reply but I will do so anyway, Lavar allowed his contract disagreement carry on during the season whether he was playing or not, Smoot on the other hand said nothing until the season was over, who put money before the job at hand? Lavar, I find it ironic that Lavar who sat out the whole year with a supposed 5 week injury did nothing but gripe, and Smoot who played through everything short of a broken bone, or a torn ligament, never made his pending free agency an issue until after the season was over. Let's face it Lavar hasen't stopped thinking about his 6 million dollar fantasy.

OFFISS straight up are we better with lavar or not, I think you will answer yes but if not just give the reasons and even if you say yes do you think that we will improve significantly or not?

By the way this is a very fun thread

what he is saying is that every player who played on the skins defense this past year played better than they ever have before , they all improved. it is fair to say lavar would have improved just as well. and he was already the best defensive player on the team.

Thankyou wolf you just summed up in 60 words what I couldn't in a couple hundred!