Griffin's Impact on our Offense

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30gut
04-17-2012, 08:08 PM
He definitely has Cam on pro-readiness hands down. I think he also has him on timing, accuracy, and efficiency. Cam did not play in a pro ready offense and had to adjust. Cam is more of an athlete, but Luck is more polished and pro-ready.I agree with you on the pro-readiness and timing but not on accuracy and efficiency.

Here's how I breakdown the prospects by measurables:

3 is average for a top level QB prospect
4 is above average
5 is elite

Observables------Newton----Luck----Griffin
Deep Ball Placement------4-----4----------5
Intermediate Placement---4-----4---------4
Short Placement (touch)--3-----4----------4
Armstrength--------------5-----3---------4
the ability to drive the ball with velocity
Athleticism----------------5-----4--------5
Playmaking ----------------5------4------5
or *“Spontaneous genius”
Experience----------------3------4-------4
College playing experience/snaps
Running/Scrambling--------5------3-------4
Production/Efficiency-------5------5------5
Pocket presence-----------5-------5------5
Foot work/Timing-----------3-------5------3
The ability to execute 3-5-7 step drop rhythm/timing passing game
Pro Ready------------------3-------5------3
Experience with pro-style plays, concepts, audibles and verbiage
Size---------------------5---------5-------4
Throwing motion----------5--------3-----3.5
Quick Release------------3---------3-------4
***The single trait that separates great quarterbacks from good quarterbacks is the ability to make the great, spontaneous decision, especially at a crucial time… This is where the great quarterback uses his experience, vision, mobility and what we will call spontaneous genius. He makes something good happen. This, of course, is what we saw in Joe Montana when he pulled out those dramatic victories for Notre Dame.



The final or total assessment depends on how you value each trait.
Some of the most important factors are intangibles factors that are both hard to quantify/compare and are virtually unknowable from our vantage point as avid fans but fans none the less.

REDSKINS4ever
04-17-2012, 08:21 PM
Do you think Irsay will drag the pick-out or announce it right away. I figure are pick should take about 2 seconds.

A young quarterback like Luck should have a deal in place before the draft much like when the Detroit Lions signed Matthew Stafford before they drafted him in 2009. If Irsay doesn't sign Luck before the draft, then that could mean that he likes RG3 over Luck and therefore will wait until when it's time to pick to select RG3.

30gut
04-17-2012, 08:59 PM
Cam-------Luck--------Griffin
---4---------4----------5-- Deep Ball Placement
---4---------5----------4-- Intermediate Placement
---3---------4----------4-- Short Placement
---5--------3.5----------4 --Armstrength
---5---------4----------5-- Athleticism
---5--------3.5---------5-- “Spontaneous genius”
---3---------4----------4-- Experience
---5---------3----------4-- Running/Scrambling
---5---------5----------5-- Production/Efficiency
---5---------5----------5-- Pocket presence
---3---------5----------3-- Foot work/Timing
---3---------5----------3-- Pro Ready
---5---------5----------4-- Size
---5---------3---------3.5--Throwing motion
---3---------3----------4-- Quick Release

MTK
04-17-2012, 09:14 PM
A young quarterback like Luck should have a deal in place before the draft much like when the Detroit Lions signed Matthew Stafford before they drafted him in 2009. If Irsay doesn't sign Luck before the draft, then that could mean that he likes RG3 over Luck and therefore will wait until when it's time to pick to select RG3.

I don't think Cam was signed prior to the draft last year. With the new slotting system there's not the urgency there used to be to get a deal done early.


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mbedner3420
04-17-2012, 09:23 PM
I don't think Cam was signed prior to the draft last year. With the new slotting system there's not the urgency there used to be to get a deal done early.


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They literally weren't allowed to negotiate with cam due to the lock out. Last year wasn't a gpod measuring stick for this year.

MTK
04-17-2012, 10:27 PM
They literally weren't allowed to negotiate with cam due to the lock out. Last year wasn't a gpod measuring stick for this year.

True, but the fact remains with the new slotting system it's much easier to get a deal done. There's little room to negotiate.

44Deezel
04-17-2012, 10:43 PM
Lets say we drafted RG3 yesterday.
Would you trade him straight up for Cam newton?

In a heartbeat.

REDSKINS4ever
04-17-2012, 11:05 PM
I don't think Cam was signed prior to the draft last year. With the new slotting system there's not the urgency there used to be to get a deal done early.


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You're right about Newton. And Bradford wasn't signed before he was drafted either the year before.

CultBrennan59
04-18-2012, 02:13 AM
thats actually really impressive.
i wanna lock up Griffin so bad man i hate that the Colts pick before us.

Ok, but that means nothing until he gets to the NFL...and also theres still a couple of QB's names that are on there that aren't good/busts, so yeah this statistic is still meaningless until we see Mr. Griffin come to Washington and play.

hail_2_da_skins
04-18-2012, 11:25 AM
If Robert Griffin III is drafted by the Redskins, will Jabbar Gaffney give up #10 jersey?

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