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SBXVII 05-31-2012, 09:47 AM Not sure why you are dishing on DG. From everything I know about him, he is one of the classiest human beings off the football field.
I think the problem is people take a blanket statement and will run with it for years. They fail to look at the circumstances at the time the player played and the why's and what for's.
Remember folks back in the 80's and some of the 90's the players did not get very much money and did not get very much for their jersey sales. The way they made extra money was to do show up at events, commercials, and signing autographs. When DG was first brought on board I think he was decent and was signing everything and shortly after something happened. I've heard a rumor that he found out people were asking him to sign items then they would sell them to the public for $$$ which he was not reaping any benifits from. Because of this he stopped signing autographs and would only do it for kids.
The other thing is why sign a ton of autographs and at your next signing session no one shows up? Thats when he was supposed to be making money.
Then there is his foundation. All he asked was when doing interviews if he could announce his foundation on the air to make people aware. I think it got to a point some news feeds said no and he wouldn't do interviews with them. I think he felt if he was doing them a favor with the interview they could do him a favor and allow him to announce his foundation. Seems fair to me.
The thing to keep in mind with him is he's passionate about his foundation, he was a loyal Redskin, he didn't cause any problems in the locker room, he did his job, he didn't hold out, he didn't commit any crimes, he didn't change teams mulitple times, he didn't do pushups in his driveway and he didn't cry on tv taling about his QB.
SBXVII 05-31-2012, 09:50 AM Back in the early 90s when I was around 11-12, my cousin & I recognized him at Busch Gardens in Williamsburg.
We went to say,"hi" & he completely ignored us. His wife came over to us and kind of guided us away from him.
She talked to us about him being with his family and that they didn't want to draw any attention to him.
We asked if she could just get him to sign our maps... she went over and came back with autographs.
Could have been A LOT more friendly but I could understand on that day why they would not want to be constantly hounded for pics & autographs... but... he the way he ignored us always has stuck in my memory.
Totally understand you position but I think you have already recognized his... not wanting to be hounded every where he went. The only other way around that would be to either rent the park out so no one else was there and your kids not get the park experience or go way out of town maybe to Dallas country and go to the park. lol.
SmootSmack 05-31-2012, 09:59 AM NC...hilarious!
SBXVII...it's a bit more complicated than that
SBXVII 05-31-2012, 10:06 AM NC...hilarious!
SBXVII...it's a bit more complicated than that
gotcha.
Monkeydad 05-31-2012, 12:20 PM brunell was a dick to me at the ravens scrimmage in 2005
Maybe you resembled a collection agent he had a run-in with.
Monkeydad 05-31-2012, 12:26 PM I think the problem is people take a blanket statement and will run with it for years. They fail to look at the circumstances at the time the player played and the why's and what for's.
Remember folks back in the 80's and some of the 90's the players did not get very much money and did not get very much for their jersey sales. The way they made extra money was to do show up at events, commercials, and signing autographs. When DG was first brought on board I think he was decent and was signing everything and shortly after something happened. I've heard a rumor that he found out people were asking him to sign items then they would sell them to the public for $$$ which he was not reaping any benifits from. Because of this he stopped signing autographs and would only do it for kids.
The other thing is why sign a ton of autographs and at your next signing session no one shows up? Thats when he was supposed to be making money.
Then there is his foundation. All he asked was when doing interviews if he could announce his foundation on the air to make people aware. I think it got to a point some news feeds said no and he wouldn't do interviews with them. I think he felt if he was doing them a favor with the interview they could do him a favor and allow him to announce his foundation. Seems fair to me.
The thing to keep in mind with him is he's passionate about his foundation, he was a loyal Redskin, he didn't cause any problems in the locker room, he did his job, he didn't hold out, he didn't commit any crimes, he didn't change teams mulitple times, he didn't do pushups in his driveway and he didn't cry on tv taling about his QB.
Good post.
He was a leader on the field for longer than most NFL players could dream of playing. That's all we can ask of a football player. Off the field, they are no different than the general public and there's going to be some we can get along with and some we won't. We shouldn't hold any of them up as better than us or have great expectations of them personally. We should only be fans of football players for what they do on the field, or we'll be disappointed.
It's great to commend and appreciate those who use their talents, name recognition and money for good charitable causes, but it should nor be automatically expected or be used as a measuring stick of how good of a person they are or aren't.
Football was their job. We should understand that. They're not idols or better/different than any of us outside of their career choice. There's going to be good ones and bad ones just like the people at our own workplaces.
I thank Green for the memories he provided in the Redskins uniform and beyond that, I don't expect anything else from him. I'm a big fan of #28 the player. I don't watch football to make friends or find men to admire.
Sure, some like Art Monk, London Fletcher and I'm going to say it, Tim Tebow, I am a fan of who they are personally and how they live their lives, but that's just an added bonus on top of the football entertainment.
NC_Skins 05-31-2012, 05:28 PM I'm sure no one here really cares...but knowing what I've heard about TO "from the inside" and some of this is kind of public knowledge as well, TO is a fragile, fragile dude and I'm not sure he can really handle life without football. I'm not trying to make the Junior Seau leap...but it's kind of what I fear could happen
I can believe that, but I have to say that I probably wouldn't be sympathetic in the least as far as he was concerned. Granted, I would feel compassion for the people who did care for him and for his children, but it seems like to me he doesn't interact with his kids or support them. I know this makes me seem like a asshole or some heartless bastard, but it's hard to feel sympathy for a man who's had it all and has blown it with choice after choice after choice. On more than one occasion, he's had the opportunity to do the right thing he always chooses to do the wrong thing.
On that note. According to this, his severance package was a mere $50 check...lol Took his ride away too..lol
Terrell Owens gets $50 severance from Allen Wranglers, threatens lawsuit | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/terrell-owens-gets-50-severance-allen-wranglers-threatens-150431179.html)
Son Of Man 05-31-2012, 10:10 PM Just a thought:
Stop idolizing athletes above their contribution to the sport. If they contribute to charities, great, enjoy the tax write-off. Then get back on the field. Fans will cheer you when you rock the B&G then forget you when you start to fade or demand you be cut (ex: Clinton Portis, Doug Williams, etc.)
I'm a grown man. No need for heroes....or autographs.
CultBrennan59 05-31-2012, 10:21 PM brunell was a dick to me at the ravens scrimmage in 2005
Were you his accountant or personal banker or something?
tryfuhl 06-01-2012, 12:50 AM Why? Because he does a charity and gives and raises money for said charity? Dan Snyder gives money to charity and we know what kind of douche bag he is. I have heard nothing but bad things about DG from the people that have met him in public. Not a single story that didn't end up with him being a douche in some form or fashion.
Also, apparently you missed the Smootsmack DG stories, but I enjoy when he gives stories about how some Redskins acted during their careers. I especially liked his gem about Albert Connell...lol
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/46298-the-keenan-mccardell-curse-2.html#post877293
I've known people who worked for his foundation that basically said if he's around... don't look at him or say anything to him... he's apparently a douche to the people that work for him too.
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