Should Augusta National Admit Women?

It's a private club, membership by invitation. No, they shouldn't be forced to allow women.

Eh. As a woman, I'm prone to agree. It's an archaic and incredibly stupid rule but it IS a private club, meaning they can reject whoever, no matter how despicable the rule is.

Aren't there still country clubs that don't allow blacks as members? I remember it wasn't TOO long ago that the country club in Chevy Chase started allowing black members... I believe. I don't think I'm dreaming that up... Or maybe it was a different issue pertaining to black membership. I'm not certain. Someone correct me if they know.

It's a private club, membership by invitation. No, they shouldn't be forced to allow women.

Have to agree here.

Also useful way to decide what kind of people you want to associate with.

Me? I'm going somewhere where they have women and 21st Century attitudes, eff Augusta!

This topic started an argument with my girlfriend and I. We compared it to colleges having to admit women. I went to VMI, and the discussion was a big part of my life back then.

In the end we agreed that if you receive tax dollars you should have to oblige the public in general. If you are completely privately funded, it's at the discretion of the members that donate their $$.

Sex is a protected class when considering employment. I dont believe however that it's protected in this instance. I'm not an attorney, so that's just my uninformed opinion.

We need a break from our wives for christ sake. What's so bad about just having a place for us? I would further argue that women would be infringing on my right to happiness by forcing the issue. The problem is my rights cant be protected if they harm someone else's rights.

No. It's a private male club.

I'm not allowed in Excitement Video on Ladies Night either...same deal.






Wait, I meant to say Bed Bath and Beyond.


Women have PLENTY of their own organizations and clubs of their own and men do not whine constantly about getting in...we just accept it.

Augusta has the right to conduct their business however they want.

Just to be clear, I don't think anyone's advocating for the gov't to intervene and I'm 110% certain they won't and don't have any desire to do so. But the question on most people's minds is how can Augusta National and the Masters, a prominent sporting event and institution in it's own right, not reflect today's America in it's membership and values.

Look, it is what it is. It's not like Agusta sprung this policy on everyone a week ago. It's been in place since it's inception. As long as they're not openly hostile towards women or marginalizing their role in society, (which one could fairly argue by denying membership they are doing just that) then you know what, they can do what they please. Like I said earlier, I feel what you have here is a bunch of good old boys that love their golf, bourbon and cigars and are still holding onto the America from way back when. It's not unreasonable to say this is just as much about preserving legacy, as weird as that may sound.

The real pressure to change will probably come from within. Perhaps an insanely influential or wealthy woman connected on the inside will be the catalyst is my guess. Nothing like having a woman shame you into changing your ways. lol

Also useful way to decide what kind of people you want to associate with.

Me? I'm going somewhere where they have women and 21st Century attitudes, eff Augusta!

21st-century attitude?

No one is demanding womens' organizations adopt the same flexibility and stray from their founding purpose/vision.

It has nothing to do with being old-fashioned or "stone age"...they have their own PRIVATE club and can run it however they want.

If Augusta is forced to admit women, we need to also apply the same standard to everything...eliminate race-based memberships and scholarships, force all womens' colleges to go co-ed, etc.

If they want a golf club just for women, NO ONE is stopping them from scraping up the money to start one.

21st-century attitude?

Yes.

No one is demanding womens' organizations adopt the same flexibility and stray from their founding purpose/vision.


This is a club, not an organization.

It has nothing to do with being old-fashioned or "stone age"...they have their own PRIVATE club and can run it however they want.

Yes, I've already stated that.

If Augusta is forced to admit women, we need to also apply the same standard to everything...

Why? We're discussing gender, not 'everything'.

eliminate race-based memberships and scholarships, force all womens' colleges to go co-ed, etc.

Bit of a leap from gender to race. You can change your gender, you can't change your race.

If they want a golf club just for women, NO ONE is stopping them from scraping up the money to start one.

Yeah, they could have a bake sale or make sandwiches.....

ill ask the obvious, if Augusta was whites only, would they have to admit minorities?

Being a sexist culturally is still somewhat more palatable socially than being a racist.