A New Look Offense or the Same but Better?

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Ruhskins
03-29-2012, 03:49 PM
one player does not a WR corps make.

Well Megatron accounted for 33% of Stafford's passing yards and 39% of TDs. I would say that is pretty significant. Not taking away anything from Stafford, but RG3 will not have anything resembling Megatron in terms of WRs here in Washington.

The Goat
03-29-2012, 05:14 PM
I feel like talking/responding to Stafford's big fan is a bad idea...but we're all free to do as we please ;)

GusFrerotte
03-30-2012, 12:04 AM
If you are going to give up what we did to get RG III, you better try and tinker with the present offense at least a tad to play to his athleticism somewhat, without trying to get him to try and be a Vick type player, as that would be disasterous. Throw in some bootlegs, more play action, etc. I think McNabb on ESPN was mostly sour grapes, but I think he did make a good point about the Shannys making a potential mistake not trying to revamp the system a bit to play on RG III's strengths.

los panda
03-30-2012, 02:25 AM
if mcnabb retired in jake plummer fashion, his "legacy" would have been much better off. of course mcnabb has sour grapes

NYCskinfan82
03-30-2012, 01:14 PM
If you are going to give up what we did to get RG III, you better try and tinker with the present offense at least a tad to play to his athleticism somewhat, without trying to get him to try and be a Vick type player, as that would be disasterous. Throw in some bootlegs, more play action, etc. I think McNabb on ESPN was mostly sour grapes, but I think he did make a good point about the Shannys making a potential mistake not trying to revamp the system a bit to play on RG III's strengths.

McNutts is an idiot, he's more mad at us than the shegles they traded you anyone with sense would be mad at them first IMO. You went to the ViQueens basically the same system you ran in Philly blunt and still looked like SH*T that proved MS & KS so right IMO.

30gut
03-30-2012, 07:06 PM
If you are going to give up what we did to get RG III, you better try and tinker with the present offense at least a tad to play to his athleticism somewhat, without trying to get him to try and be a Vick type player, as that would be disasterous. Throw in some bootlegs, more play action, etc. I think McNabb on ESPN was mostly sour grapes, but I think he did make a good point about the Shannys making a potential mistake not trying to revamp the system a bit to play on RG III's strengths.Getting away from McNabb a little and back to the OP...

I don't think throwing in some bootlegs and playaction would be a departure from the true nature of Mike Shanahan Denver WCO playcalling.
In a sense it would actually be a return to it.

30gut
03-30-2012, 09:50 PM
From the OP:
o the offense formations will change and our offense will adopt and feature some of Baylor's formations and concepts, like they way the Panthers added some of Auburns formations, plays and concepts?

Baylor has some core concepts in their playbook and one staple is the ability to run the ball from shotgun.
They often use a zone-read play where the QB reads the edge defender (DE or OLB) and makes a decision to keep it or give it the RB.

Kyle has an similar play concept/formation in his offense (although most likely a designed RB run).
If they want to make aspects of Baylor's offense part of their offense we could see a lot more of this:

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/139/62041937862a48b48715f9f1200604ce/l.jpg

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/066b47193d274a3bae6f088a49318972/l.jpg
Imagine Griffin keep the ball once he sees the LBs commit

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/153/ed0ad6aec3394f14ac029ad3bb8195d2/l.jpg
^^Once Griffin reads the crashing LBs imagine him keeping the ball and out running OLB#50 towards the rightside edge/alley as Hankerson picks up either the pursuit LB or the CB

or

Picture Griffin ducking his head in playfake to the RB and throwing over the run committed LBs
(obviously the WRs would be running routes instead of stalk blocking like they're doing in these images)

This is the type of play/formation we could see if they plan to incorporate some of Baylor's offense into a featured role in this year's playcalling.

30gut
04-18-2012, 01:28 PM
Good NFL zone read close-up:

NFL Videos: Anatomy of a Play: Broncos' read-option (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-anatomy-of-a-play/09000d5d825be2c0/Anatomy-of-a-Play-Broncos-read-option)

Could we see plays/concepts like these next year?

Monkeydad
04-18-2012, 01:34 PM
From the OP:

Baylor has some core concepts in their playbook and one staple is the ability to run the ball from shotgun.
They often use a zone-read play where the QB reads the edge defender (DE or OLB) and makes a decision to keep it or give it the RB.

Kyle has an similar play concept/formation in his offense (although most likely a designed RB run).
If they want to make aspects of Baylor's offense part of their offense we could see a lot more of this:

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/139/62041937862a48b48715f9f1200604ce/l.jpg

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/066b47193d274a3bae6f088a49318972/l.jpg
Imagine Griffin keep the ball once he sees the LBs commit

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/153/ed0ad6aec3394f14ac029ad3bb8195d2/l.jpg
^^Once Griffin reads the crashing LBs imagine him keeping the ball and out running OLB#50 towards the rightside edge/alley as Hankerson picks up either the pursuit LB or the CB

or

Picture Griffin ducking his head in playfake to the RB and throwing over the run committed LBs
(obviously the WRs would be running routes instead of stalk blocking like they're doing in these images)

This is the type of play/formation we could see if they plan to incorporate some of Baylor's offense into a featured role in this year's playcalling.


What I'm seeing there is a 74-yard TD run.

30gut
04-25-2012, 08:55 PM
Gruden talks about the zone read + WCO concepts that could be possibilities for our offense with Griffin:

This read option combined with the WCO offense is just down right scary...no huddle offense..hey...it regulates the coverage and fronts a defense can play
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