A New Look Offense or the Same but Better?

thats the real question...Kyle needs to prove alot this year. Id be much more comfortable with Shanny running the O. For some reason I dont think Kyle wants to change anything.

I think Kyle Shanahan will change a few things. Now that Robert Grifffin III is in the Redskins fold, I expect Kyle Shanahan to take a few things from the Baylor Bears playbook that RG3 did so well while in college and modify their version of the west coast offense a bit. The bubble screens along with other concepts could very well be implemented enough to give RG3 enough of a chance to succeed. It would be foolish of Kyle Shanahan to just hand RG3 a playbook and not have anything else in creative in mind to add along to it.

if it’s running the option, running the counter option, doing things that are not going to be the staple of your offense – that really dictate what defenses can do and can’t do

keeps defenses honest because they’ve just got to prepare, and it makes it a little bit easier to do other things. The more a quarterback can do, the better chance you have to be successful.”

I think Kyle Shanahan will change a few things. Now that Robert Grifffin III is in the Redskins fold, I expect Kyle Shanahan to take a few things from the Baylor Bears playbook that RG3 did so well while in college and modify their version of the west coast offense a bit.I don't think bubble screen would be a new wrinkle since its already part of the offense.
However the quotes from Mike Shanahan above specifically mention option/counter option.

And in that case the possibilities are intriguing....if we did anything close to this wow....

The new new thing. The spread offense, as it has matured, seems like it continues to absorb and assimilate every offensive football concept ever run — quick passing game, option, single-wing, wing-T, etc — and the play-action passing game is no different. The rise of pistol and even three-back “Diamond” formations have been big factors in spread offenses incorporating using more and more play-action over the past few seasons. And with the rise of the “inverted veer,” which involves a pulling guard and has the quarterback read a play-side defender (as opposed to a backside defender as with the zone read), it was only inevitable that offenses would use that play as the foundation for play-action.

And no one did it better this past season than Art Briles and Robert Griffin III at Baylor. Griffin, of course, throws a beautiful deep ball — probably the best I’ve seen from a collegiate player in at least a decade. But he also benefited from a lot of wide open deep tosses, often off this very run action. The typical inverted veer play is as drawn up below:

http://smartfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/invertedveer.gif



So how do you adapt this to play-action using the same principles as above? You guessed it: The line to the play-side blocks down while the pulling linemen is responsible for the defensive end to his side, i.e. the “C” gap.
http://smartfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/inverted-veer-playaction.jpg


One important note is that as I have drawn this up — which is how Baylor typically ran it — there are only five offensive players pass blocking. Unlike above where the backside tackle steps down and an H-back or fullback has the C gap, here the backside tackle just locks on to the defensive end. Note that one can easily put another blocker there backside to get a sound six-man surface.

In any event, as shown here as well as the video clips below, Baylor decimated people with this concept. They loved to fake the inverted veer one way and to have the backside slot get deep, often off of a fake-slant-and-go concept. But any passing concept should work, especially considering that the runningback becomes a swing or flare-control checkdown receiver.
http://smartfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/baylor1.jpg


So that’s how to use the pulling lineman with the inverted veer. The other method to pull a linemen in pass protection from a spread set — one used by many college and pro teams — is not quite as good in terms of the run fake but still does the trick and it provides a full six-man pass protection surface. In this method, shown below, the pulling linemen and the runningback go in opposite directions. I have shown this with a pulling tackle to mimic the common “Dart” run play, where the playside tackle pass sets and the backside tackle, not the backside guard, is the one pulling. For the play-action concept, essentially the interior line squeezes down while the runningback and pulling tackle are responsible for the C gaps — and outside rushers — to either side. And, as mentioned above, this has traditionally not been a difficult block because those defensive ends tend to read run and step down, waiting for a ballcarrier.

http://smartfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DART-one-back.jpg

click the link to the great article and video clip:

“A very wise coach once told me, ‘If you really want play-action, you better pull a guard’” — Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III agree | Smart Football (http://smartfootball.com/passing/a-very-wise-coach-once-told-me-if-you-really-want-play-action-you-better-pull-a-guard)

Imagine using a series of play similar to the ones below as a compliment to the base offense +Griffin's throwing ability:

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We already know RG3 will be used in the wildcat formation. If the coaches called the wildcat using Brandon Banks in 2010, why not call that same play using Robert Griffin III in 2012?

With RG3 & the speed on OF we have the options might become endless IMO.

We already know RG3 will be used in the wildcat formation. If the coaches called the wildcat using Brandon Banks in 2010, why not call that same play using Robert Griffin III in 2012?

We do? Has this been confirmed somewhere?

We do? Has this been confirmed somewhere?

No. But once a play is in the playbook, why remove it? It's not a farfetched notion to think that RG3 will be used in the wildcat. Just look at how he ran the ball in college at Baylor.

“We’ve run the quarterback keeps, we’ve run the rolls. We have different types of option schemes available to us. It does present problems for the defense,” from John Keim article in Examiner
RG3 Report | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/redskins-confidential/2012/06/rg3-report/703711)

The Redskins worked on more rollouts and option plays for Griffin. But that's not going to be the primary focus of the offense. He's not a young Michael Vick. Shanahan wants RG3 to be a young John Elway.

"It's good that we're implementing some of the option stuff because I have the ability to run it, but I don't want people to think I'm just an option quarterback," Griffin said

Robert Griffin III: I'm not just an option QB - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d829aa605/article/robert-griffin-iii-im-not-just-an-option-qb?module=HP11_headline_stack)

Clearly they have been evolving this offense from a running the QB perspective...[Chris Russell] don't like the notion of expecting (Griffin) to take a snap, make a read and immediately take off

06-13-12 Skins @ 1 (11:09)
Chirs Russell talking about Griffin running option
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_...c=427&f=585021


RG3: playbook turning into a second language (http://www.csnwashington.com/pages/video?PID=m1pGMz9_VrQrBmupsoUnbh0JTu7f3wI9&t=23-28)
:24s mark vid of Griff practicing zone read QB keep