GTripp0012
05-29-2012, 12:42 AM
Thanks G, very interesting.
What is the percentage in the figures?
Is it the percentage chance of converting for a 1st down?
Can you post or link the complete data set?The percentage is simply this:
Outcome value of the play/baseline
A 30% play was 30 percent more valuable than the expectation for the down and distance.
30gut
05-29-2012, 10:14 AM
The percentage is simply this:
Outcome value of the play/baseline
A 30% play was 30 percent more valuable than the expectation for the down and distance.Thanks,
Do you have the 1st down stats for the Texans?
I wonder how we compare to a good running team.
Personally I don't think Kyle is gonna make significant or meaningful changes.
I think the offense we saw last year is gonna be the offense we see this year.
But, I'm filled with hope and eagerness to be proved utterly wrong.
Because if they harnessed the talent of Griffin and really altered the offense around his skillset he could have a huge impact.
But, at the end of the day I think Robert Griffin is a 'coach proof' talent.
InsaneBoost
05-29-2012, 03:28 PM
Better:
In all honesty, I feel our offense was good enough last year. Not saying it was elite or anything along that line, but good enough to compete with "the best" (which they still did, damn Giants). The problem naturally, was QB, and that's what it's going to boil down to this year.
Defenses stacked the box to force the ball into Rex Grossmans hands for the simple fact he didn't scare anyone. Granted he did get some wins, but 9/10 times it's going to work for you.
If Robert Griffin III can come out and shine and cause defenses to respect us, then were finally going to see this offense come together, we'll be able to mix things up a lot better and hurt defenses both in the air and on the ground.
So I guess in a sense, it all boils down to RGIII. Not saying we can't use better players at certain positions and add better depth, but the main reason we failed last year was because nobody feared Grossman.
Monkeydad
05-29-2012, 03:39 PM
To my untrained eye, Kyle's offense changed to more rollouts/bootlegs when Beck briefly replaced Grossman last season. Looking forward to seeing a much more wide-open offense with RG3.
That's because Beck could actually run well. Rex was the master of the "step into a defender for a sack fumble".
I expect the offense to adapt to RGIII's mobility. They'd be stupid not to tailor the playbook to his talents.
I think we'll see RG3 rolling out a ton. Play-action off the stretch zone will be deadly.
REDSKINS4ever
05-29-2012, 04:39 PM
I think we'll see RG3 rolling out a ton. Play-action off the stretch zone will be deadly.
Those types of plays will work effectively in the short passing game. Expect a lot of high percentage completions to the fullback in the flat, the tight end in the middle of the field, or the half back in the flat.
los panda
05-29-2012, 04:44 PM
show me some shades of the 1998 vikings offense
Monkeydad
05-29-2012, 04:54 PM
show me some shades of the 1998 vikings offense
Why not the 1991 Redskins?
Monkeydad
05-29-2012, 04:56 PM
Those types of plays will work effectively in the short passing game. Expect a lot of high percentage completions to the fullback in the flat, the tight end in the middle of the field, or the half back in the flat.
Bubble screen!
(Anyone who heard the commentary during the OK State game will understand...)
GTripp0012
05-29-2012, 04:56 PM
Thanks,
Do you have the 1st down stats for the Texans?
I wonder how we compare to a good running team.
Personally I don't think Kyle is gonna make significant or meaningful changes.
I think the offense we saw last year is gonna be the offense we see this year.
But, I'm filled with hope and eagerness to be proved utterly wrong.
Because if they harnessed the talent of Griffin and really altered the offense around his skillset he could have a huge impact.
But, at the end of the day I think Robert Griffin is a 'coach proof' talent.For the 2011 Texans:
1st down passing
59.2% (3rd)
1st down rushing
-0.6% (16th)
All 1st downs
20.3% (5th)
2nd down passing
8.2% (17th)
2nd down rushing
9.3% (10th)
All 2nd downs
4.9% (16th)
3rd/4th down passing
7.5% (15th)
3rd/4th down rushing
30.3% (8th)
All 3rd/4th downs
13.2% (12th)
All passing
27.3% (9th)
All rushing
7.9% (10th)
All offense
13.3% (9th)
If you look at the trends, the Texans are really similar to us (I suppose thats not the most surprising thing). They're a lot better on offense, sure, but the down/distance splits break down almost exactly identical.