Trayvon Martin Case

It sucks that this case got so much publicity way before trial. Certainly didn't help that myself and likely a good amount other people found out about it when Wade and LeBron brought awareness to it after Gabrielle Union told Wade about it in spite of only very basic facts being known.

I mean its so hard to sort through who has an agenda and what the cold hard facts are. At the very least though I've believed for a while now that Zimmerman should be convicted of manslaughter. Mainly because we know that he was told not to pursue Martin and he did anyway leading to the situation we have now.

Anything beyond that is tricky. Yes Zimmerman was punched but he wasn't punched as nearly as many times as he said and his head certainly wasn't slammed repeatedly into concrete. It's possible that Martin initiated the first exchange of words and may have even backtracked to hit Zimmerman.

It also doesn't help that both have less then stellar character references. Zimmerman has the 2005 arrest and an accusation of domestic violence. Martin suspended for a pot residue bag at school and rumors of him punching a bus driver.

Regardless it's a huge mess. Hopefully whatever the verdict we don't end up with another riot.

It sucks that this case got so much publicity way before trial. Certainly didn't help that myself and likely a good amount other people found out about it when Wade and LeBron brought awareness to it after Gabrielle Union told Wade about it in spite of only very basic facts being known.

I mean its so hard to sort through who has an agenda and what the cold hard facts are. At the very least though I've believed for a while now that Zimmerman should be convicted of manslaughter. Mainly because we know that he was told not to pursue Martin and he did anyway leading to the situation we have now.

Anything beyond that is tricky. Yes Zimmerman was punched but he wasn't punched as nearly as many times as he said and his head certainly wasn't slammed repeatedly into concrete. It's possible that Martin initiated the first exchange of words and may have even backtracked to hit Zimmerman.

It also doesn't help that both have less then stellar character references. Zimmerman has the 2005 arrest and an accusation of domestic violence. Martin suspended for a pot residue bag at school and rumors of him punching a bus driver.

Regardless it's a huge mess. Hopefully whatever the verdict we don't end up with another riot.

First, I think most of what you've said incredibly reasonable.

As for the bolded part, just don't know whether we can say with any certainty that Zimmerman "wasn't punched as nearly as many times as he said and his head certainly wasn't slammed repeatedly into concrete." Even the prosecutor's medical expert, who testified on direct that the lacerations were consistent with a single strike against the concrete, admitted on cross exam that they could have resulted from multiple strikes against concrete and that Martin could have punched Zimmerman multiple times.

Regardless it's a huge mess. Hopefully whatever the verdict we don't end up with another riot.

Agree 100%.

Agree 100%.

no where near being a riot you guys are so ill informed about what caused the LA riots. It was the fact [people were tired of the long history of he LA PD and that was the last straw. riots don;t happen off of isolated incidents. Frustration has to build up over time. But that won't fit into Rush Limbaugh narrative, not as entertaining. He is gonna do some time not sure how much though. His rectum is gonna be re-sized.

It sucks that this case got so much publicity way before trial. Certainly didn't help that myself and likely a good amount other people found out about it when Wade and LeBron brought awareness to it after Gabrielle Union told Wade about it in spite of only very basic facts being known.

I mean its so hard to sort through who has an agenda and what the cold hard facts are. At the very least though I've believed for a while now that Zimmerman should be convicted of manslaughter. Mainly because we know that he was told not to pursue Martin and he did anyway leading to the situation we have now.

Anything beyond that is tricky. Yes Zimmerman was punched but he wasn't punched as nearly as many times as he said and his head certainly wasn't slammed repeatedly into concrete. It's possible that Martin initiated the first exchange of words and may have even backtracked to hit Zimmerman.

It also doesn't help that both have less then stellar character references. Zimmerman has the 2005 arrest and an accusation of domestic violence. Martin suspended for a pot residue bag at school and rumors of him punching a bus driver.

Regardless it's a huge mess. Hopefully whatever the verdict we don't end up with another riot.

How do we know that?

They say all of this was caused by one blow to the back of the head. Then we have the pic of his face which shows he suffered a broken nose.

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/zimmerman-head-e1337429735256.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VGKStTUH4eI/UNFcDQ2llyI/AAAAAAAACq0/fUG-nayX0ZE/s1600/zimmerman+head+3.jpg

His rectum is gonna be re-sized.

Check out the homoerotic imagination on G84C!

Nonetheless, and despite their certainty, someone is wrong and there is simply no way to prove who it is.

Can't they tell via voice analysis?

That's just tough - so many variables. If it's a jury of Chico's or OTM's, he is likley to be found guilty of manslaughter. If it's a jury of G84C's, 2nd degree. If it's a jury of me's, likely to be innocent.

I am going to say not guilty on the 2nd degree and manslaughter. A jury of women will be sympathetic to the death of a child, but not so much so as to outweigh their need for solid proof before condemning another man to prison.

My degree of confidence in this prediction is pretty low. Zimmerman is no saint and we have a dead kid. It's just a tragedy that could have been avoided by both.


Unfortunately we are still without robot juries.

Feel free to change you prediction prior to any decisions are known/made.

Can't they tell via voice analysis?

I know there was discussion but remember reading that, due to the other sounds on the recording, there simply was not enough tape of the "clean" sample to get a reasonably reliable analysis. Both sides had experts but pretty sure both were prohibited b/c they couldn't say anything to a "reasonable degree of scientific certainty".