Trayvon Martin Case

^^needs to go into the gun control thread.

^^needs to go into the gun control thread.No, it needs to go in the "nut control" thread. Since there isn't one, we've had one or two other "stand your ground" / "castle" cases here.

edit: Posting in both threads is fine with me.

All-female jury to try Zimmerman (http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/justice/florida-zimmerman-trial/index.html)

(CNN) -- A jury of six women was chosen Thursday to hear the case of George Zimmerman, the Florida neighborhood watch volunteer accused of murder in the 2012 killing of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin.

Five of the six are white. They were chosen from among a pool of 500 potential jurors in the closely watched case against Zimmerman, who faces a second-degree murder charge in Martin's death.

Zimmerman is screwed......

All-female jury to try Zimmerman (http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/justice/florida-zimmerman-trial/index.html)

(CNN) -- A jury of six women was chosen Thursday to hear the case of George Zimmerman, the Florida neighborhood watch volunteer accused of murder in the 2012 killing of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin.

Five of the six are white. They were chosen from among a pool of 500 potential jurors in the closely watched case against Zimmerman, who faces a second-degree murder charge in Martin's death.

Zimmerman is screwed......

I thought the same thing. Now if he is not convicted people will point to the 5 to 1 white jury as the reason.

zimmerman is a dead man walking imo.

if you are in a fist fight and the other person doesnt have a deadly weapon, you can not shoot them. that is murder.

kinda hard to claim self defense when there was only 1 gun and you were the one holding it and discharging it into an unarmed person.

RACIAL PROFILING HAS TO STOP.

edit - its funny. in the video re-enactment zimmerman did he says "then i put my hand on his mouth and said .. .. no he put his hand on my mouth and said shut the eff up.... "

he also said that martin confronted him and sd "do you have a problem". zimmerman then sd that he sd "no i dont have a problem" ... zimmerman seemed very confrontational on the phone call to 911 dispatch and his actions of repeatedly following martin yet he claims when he had a chance to confront martin, zimmerman wants us to think he was non-confrontational and just like "no i dont have a problem" ......

plus the 911 calls from neighbors, the repeated screams of help sure sound like a young male imo.

http://http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

^^ video of zimmerman's account. even under his version, he wasnt justified in using deadly force since martin was unarmed.

zimmerman is a dead man walking imo.

You hope, right?

if you are in a fist fight and the other person doesnt have a deadly weapon, you can not shoot them. that is murder.

kinda hard to claim self defense when there was only 1 gun and you were the one holding it and discharging it into an unarmed person.

Not if it's in self defense and you have a right to carry the weapon. I'm sure there are many people on this forum right now who can kill with their bare hands. If you had to face an attacker who could kill you would you want to be able to defend yourself? NOTE: JR has been known to bore people to death. True story.

RACIAL PROFILING HAS TO STOP.

So does all caps.

If your community is targeted by burglars, as is well documented in this case, then would you challenge everyone who was unfamiliar to you or not? You're seeing racial profiling where there is none.

The media appreciates your compliance in following their rewriting of the facts.

Oh, and: (http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/197363/george-zimmerman-sues-nbc-over-editing-of-911-tape-after-trayvon-martin-shooting/)

NBC broadcast three reports using audio edited to make it appear Zimmerman said, “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.” The first report was produced by WTVJ in Miami, which fired reporter Jeff Burnside, who was involved in editing it. “Today” broadcast a report apparently influenced by WTVJ’s that edited the audio the same way; reporter Lilia Luciano lost her job with the network after that. The [Ron] Allen report was broadcast after those two, and apparently used the same audio track as the second.

Interesting ruling by the Judge:

9:05 a.m. ET: Nelson has ruled that the five calls Zimmerman made reporting other suspicious people in his neighborhood will be admissible.

Will eyewitnesses help Zimmerman prosecutors? | HLNtv.com (http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/26/will-eyewitnesses-help-george-zimmerman--trial-day-3-prosecutors?hpt=hp_t2)

I think Zimmerman gets off.

so far it seems the defense attorney is treating the first 2 neutral eyewitnesses like adverse witnesses . . i dont think it will be a good strategy to try and discredit every neutral witness. if there is a legit reason why a certain person's testimony should be given less weight, fine.

but to try and discredit every witness shows a pattern that the defense attorney will try to discredit everyone therefore, as a juror, you shouldnt gi ve him cross exam much weight.

i would try and focus on the positive and favorable aspects of some of the neutral witnesses' testimony so it seems that you are on the same side as the witnesses and they are corroborating your version.

to thumb your nose at everyone means its zimmerman's word vs everyone elses. not a good strategy.

edit - very surprised the witness was allowed to say the cries for help sounded like a boy's voice. clearly speculative and whose voice was pleading for help is very material to this case.

edit - very surprised the witness was allowed to say the cries for help sounded like a boy's voice. clearly speculative and whose voice was pleading for help is very material to this case.

Utterly idiotic given that the 'boy' was 17 and 6'2".

He could easily have had a rich baritone voice, FFS!