12thMan
04-02-2012, 03:16 PM
Yeah, I thought it was strange that the State's Attorney was even present to begin with and overturned the officer at the scene without collecting any facts, no DNA, no nothing. Just overturned it. Interesting.
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12thMan 04-02-2012, 03:16 PM Yeah, I thought it was strange that the State's Attorney was even present to begin with and overturned the officer at the scene without collecting any facts, no DNA, no nothing. Just overturned it. Interesting. JoeRedskin 04-02-2012, 03:17 PM JoeRedskin, to date there are no witness that actually saw the incident from start to end. So it boils down to Zimmerman's word against Trayvon Martin's. And Trayvon Martin is dead. Yes. No. Sorta. Agreed we have a critical gap. At the same time, we know there was a verbal confrontation based on the statement of the girlfriend. We know there was some type of physical altercation based on the eye witnesses. At the least, Zimmerman should be charged with manslaughter based on the 911 call and the girlfriend's statements and the "mutual combat" doctrine. However, it is the State's duty to prove murder so, lacking something more than what I have seen out there, I can't see them proving it at this point. It will not be the first time a murderer has walked for lack of a witness. It happens in Baltimore all the time and usually the alleged murderer has a much more sordid history than Zimmerman. JoeRedskin 04-02-2012, 03:24 PM Yeah, I thought it was strange that the State's Attorney was even present to begin with and overturned the officer at the scene without collecting any facts, no DNA, no nothing. Just overturned it. Interesting. Again, yes, no, sorta - police recommendations get overturned all the time. Hell, in Baltimore for a while, it was a HUGE bone of contention between the PD and State's Attorney. I would not be surprised if the SA took one look at this and said - this could be a problem, let's not rush into it. Again, I blame Florida's self-defense, immunity-from-arrest law. Rather than the "Stand-your-ground" law, this is the law that needs changing in Florida. Seriously, the amount of bad judgment by the various actors in this case is amaziing - from Zimmerman, to the police, to the media, etc. it's just stunning. 12thMan 04-02-2012, 03:42 PM You live in Balitmore? I was up there for St. Paddy's. Good times. JoeRedskin 04-02-2012, 03:53 PM Yup - been here since 1987. firstdown 04-02-2012, 04:31 PM Firstdown, the altercation took place between two rows of homes on each side, possibly on grass, not at his vehicle. The crime scene, where they taped off, was no where near Zimmerman's vehicle. The area I remembered was right by the road and side walk. 12thMan 04-02-2012, 04:53 PM Yup - been here since 1987. Get over to Mothers at all? mlmdub130 04-02-2012, 04:55 PM Again, yes, no, sorta - police recommendations get overturned all the time. Hell, in Baltimore for a while, it was a HUGE bone of contention between the PD and State's Attorney. I would not be surprised if the SA took one look at this and said - this could be a problem, let's not rush into it. Again, I blame Florida's self-defense, immunity-from-arrest law. Rather than the "Stand-your-ground" law, this is the law that needs changing in Florida. Seriously, the amount of bad judgment by the various actors in this case is amaziing - from Zimmerman, to the police, to the media, etc. it's just stunning. thats a very good point, had never thought about it like that. also did not realize the immunity from arrest law was a seperate law than the stand your ground law. still i wouldn't mind seeing both of those laws amended. mlmdub130 04-02-2012, 04:56 PM The area I remembered was right by the road and side walk. the area you remembered from what? i'm guessing a picture from the media? we already know how misleading those can be. JoeRedskin 04-02-2012, 05:04 PM Get over to Mothers at all? Nope. But, if you want ot meet up for a drink there, just let me know when. Beginning in a couple weeks my Friday nights free up as my wife takes the kids over to the In-laws on the weekends. |
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