Trayvon Martin Case

There are a few things that are pretty clear to me: George Zimmerman is lying, the Sanford PD is lying to cover their asses, and if the tables were turned, had Trayvon shot Zimmerman under the exact same circumstances, there's no question in my mind that: a) We would not be having this conversation and b) Trayvon would have been arrested on the spot. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, go straight to jail.

There are a few things that are pretty clear to me: George Zimmerman is lying, the Sanford PD is lying to cover their asses, and if the tables were turned, had Trayvon shot Zimmerman under the exact same circumstances, there's no question in my mind that: a) We would not be having this conversation and b) Trayvon would have been arrested on the spot. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, go straight to jail.

I agree. I just wonder why PD would try to cover it up in the first place. Its not like Zimmerman was a pillar of the community or something, where they didn't want him/the city to get bad press.

I just don't see what the PD was trying to achieve by completely screwing the entire situation.

Your example isn't a good one. Zimmerman followed Martin in a vehicle, got out against the orders of the 911 operator, and approached Trayvon Martin. His actions precipitated the ensuing the events. Had Zimmerman been an officer of the law, properly identified himself, then that's a different story. But he made up his made that Trayvon Martin was up to something and decided to take matters into his own hands. That much is very clear from the 911 audio.

Where we disagree is this, you're assuming because George Zimmerman suffered in a physical altercation, he's justified in pulling out his weapon. That is not stand your ground, sir. Even if George Zimmerman got his ass beat, which he didn't, that doesn't give him the legal grounds to pull his firearm and shoot an innocent teen in cold blood.

You facts are not correct. Zimmerman was out of his car following Trayvon when the 911 operator asked if he was following him and said he did not have to do that. After that its not clear what happened.

911 dispatcher:
Are you following him? [2:24]
Zimmerman:
Yeah. [2:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK.
We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]
Zimmerman:
OK. [2:28]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

The coversation then turned to where he would meet the cops when they arrived. To me that tells me Zimmerman was returning to his car to meet the cops but who knows.

Honestly, I think at first they just took his word for it and kept it moving thinking this would all go away.

The problem with all of this is evidence. Regardless if you think he's guilty as hell, it all boils down to evidence. Is there any to sufficiently to debunk Zimmerman's side of the story? As of what we've been shown so far, I doubt it. We would need a injury report from a medical examiner to fully comprehend what type of physical harm we was undertaking. (if any)


Sounds like the guy is just a overzealous wanna-be-cop that over stepped his boundaries. However, this is merely a observation and just a opinion.



I will say that people that are saying he's racists should step back. This is NOT a racial issue, nor was this a hate crime. Does the guy profile? Sure, but that doesn't mean it was racial profiling. You can profile a person based on clothes, hair style, etc... In fact, the FBI uses profiling to catch many criminals. We all profile, whether we say we don't or not. If you lived in a area where you saw on TV that the majority of crimes were committed by people dressed like "thugs" (hoodies/pants pulled down/doo rags). Chances are you would be wary of people dressed like "thugs". I'm merely using this as an example, and not saying this is the case.

You facts are not correct. Zimmerman was out of his car following Trayvon when the 911 operator asked if he was following him and said he did not have to do that. After that its not clear what happened.

911 dispatcher:
Are you following him? [2:24]
Zimmerman:
Yeah. [2:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK.
We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]
Zimmerman:
OK. [2:28]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

The coversation then turned to where he would meet the cops when they arrived. To me that tells me Zimmerman was returning to his car to meet the cops but who knows.

Firstdown, the altercation took place between two rows of homes on each side, possibly on grass, not at his vehicle. The crime scene, where they taped off, was no where near Zimmerman's vehicle.

Firstdown, the altercation took place between two rows of homes on each side, possibly on grass, not at his vehicle. The crime scene, where they taped off, was no where near Zimmerman's vehicle.

They seem to believe that the 911 call validates Zimmerman's claims despite the 1 min gap in events, his trailing of the boy and claim of "they always get away," his aggressive history and blatant profiling. Unbelievable.

I'll just be glad when they arrest him, it's long overdue. For their part, Sanford PD haven't done Zimmerman any favors by dragging this out. There's not a juror out there that will be impartial and fair due to all the information leaking out in bits. You can't help but feel empathy for the victim regardless of the circumstances surrounding what actually took place. Even in Trayvon clocked Zimmerman a few times, isn't he entitled to protect and defend himself from an armed stranger?

Meanwhile you have a dead 17 year old boy who's been buried for nearly month, no signs of a scuffle whatsoever on his hands or body, and his killer remains free. I'm sorry, but this whole things smacks of Jim Crow justice.

no signs of a scuffle whatsoever on his hands or body

You read the autopsy report? Talked to the police about their evidence? Just curious on how you can make that assumption. Right now, we (the public) really don't know jack shit.

You read the autopsy report? Talked to the police about their evidence? Just curious on how you can make that assumption. Right now, we (the public) really don't know jack shit.

Not an assumption.

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