REDSKINS4ever
03-27-2012, 12:29 AM
I'm worried. If the NFL docks us picks for this, I'll be determined that we are a cursed franchise if we lose our Griffin Pick. IF, thats a big IF, we get fined, I hope its just money, not picks.
Why would the NFL do this? Even if it did happen, the culprit responsible has been dealt with. Gregg Williams is in football jail right now serving an indefinite amount of time for his transgressions against the game. Why would the Redskins or Bills have to pay in any way? Plus, that was 2004-2007. We will not get docked any draft picks because of this scandal involving Gregg Williams.
EARTHQUAKE2689
03-27-2012, 12:54 AM
All the way up until they decide to take away our 1st RD pick forcing a no trade.
Where the hell would that even come from? The Saints main problem is that they continuously lied to Goddell and covered it up for 3 years.
Ruhskins
03-27-2012, 01:10 AM
Despite any concerns some may have (including myself) I believe the NFL is further investigating this issue to see if there are other teams that have recently engage in bounty programs. While the whole cap issues may give us the idea of being paranoid, I just can't see how the NFL can place any penalties on the Redskins organization. Now, let's remember that player suspensions haven't been given out, so this may very well be part of that.
NC_Skins
03-27-2012, 01:42 AM
Some of you guys are hilarious. Back away from the ledge before you hurt yourselves. Thanks.
Ruhskins
03-27-2012, 01:57 AM
Some of you guys are hilarious. Back away from the ledge before you hurt yourselves. Thanks.
Just opinions. In the end, many of us know that nothing will prob come out of this. But given the BS from the league in the whole cap-gate situation, I can see where people are concerned.
On a semi-related note. I am really curious to see what type of punishments Goodell will have for players. I am thinking the likes of Jonathan Vilma maybe suspended for several games up to possibly a year.
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FRPLG
03-27-2012, 09:28 AM
I too am concerned somewhat but what could they do? Who would they suspend? Everyone from then is gone. I am pretty convinced the draft picks taken from the Saints were more due to the continual lying and cover-up. Maybe a fine? Everyone can chill out. Worry about it when there is something to actually worry about.
SmootSmack
03-27-2012, 09:43 AM
I have a feeling, just a feeling, as much as anything these talks with Redskins are to verify the sincerity and accuracy of comments Williams has already provided to the league. If by talking to Redskins, the league finds that Williams was being honest about whatever he said re: his time with the Redskins maybe his suspension is lifted after one year. If, on the other hand, they find he was lying...
TheMalcolmConnection
03-27-2012, 09:44 AM
The NFL position on this has been that this is an ongoing investigation - - and it has been that way since the story on the Saints broke.
The league is not likely to "make stuff up"; there is no "stuff that has been made up" about the Saints; Gregg Williams and Sean Payton have pretty much admitted that what the NFL alleged to be the case was in fact the case.
And there are so many threads in this story/investigation/whatever that lead to the conclusion that Gregg Williams has done this before in other venues that the NFL HAS to do an investigation to learn whatever it might. Remember, the US Senate is going to hold hearings on this matter and that could put a lot of people under oath while they tell their stories.
Imagine Gregg Williams under oath sitting next to all the owners he has worked for and head coaches he has been the DC under and all of them are under oath too. The NFL would not like that to happen...
You really should not speculate on what might or might not happen to teams where Gregg Williams had been DC in the past. It is comforting to speculate that the worst that could happen to the Redskins would be a fine but you do not know - - and neither do I - - where an investigation might lead. The odds favor an investigation of the Redskins turning up some kind of "bounty system" but with no links to current management. But might there be links to the owner(s)? I have no idea...
I would say the same thing is true of an investgation of the years that Williams was in Tennessee, Jax and Buffalo and what links might be made within those teams to folks still associated with those teams.
And remember, the NFL has incentivized Gregg Williams to "spill the beans" on what went on in previous incarnations in the league. The commish's letter to him says that a major factor in the commish deciding whether to lift his indefinite suspension is the degree to which Williams cooparates with and furthers the ongoing investigation.
MAYBE you can be worried that Williams might start to "make stuff up". It is less likely that the NFL would find it beneficial to do the same.
Great explanation. Makes me feel a lot better considering the cap space debacle.
NC_Skins
03-27-2012, 10:09 AM
Just opinions. In the end, many of us know that nothing will prob come out of this. But given the BS from the league in the whole cap-gate situation, I can see where people are concerned.
Opinions are one thing, overreacting is another. I think capgate and bountygate are two separate issues all together. Also, our (and the bills) situation with Gregg Williams and the Saints are two different animals. They aren't even comparable. One, we(or Bills) were never notified or investigated by the league and told to stop such bounty numerous times. Secondly, we never lied to any investigators repeatedly. Lying is what caused this harsh punishment, not the actual bounty program.
So to continue with the "THERE GOING TO TAKE OUR #1 PICK AWAY" is a bit silly to be honest with you.