The Pro Days Thread

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freddyg12
03-22-2012, 11:57 AM
Most everything I have found dismisses the comparisons to Vick. He's at a better place in his development than Vick was at this point. I get uncomfortable with the comparison because I think it has more to do with the fact that they're both African-American than anything. It's a lazy parallel to draw.

Well put, but something they do have in common is the deep ball. That was Vick's best pass at VT & sounds like it is for RGIII as well. I don't know enough about RGIII's accuracy in a variety of routes, but Vick needed quite a bit of fine tuning on some intermediate routes when he was drafted.

Plus, RGIII is sooo much smarter & much more comfortable w/the public attention & press. That's a big deal in these times & I think is often why some players, especially QBs, fail. See Ryan Leaf.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-22-2012, 11:58 AM
RG3 is far superior as a passer than Vick ever was or ever will be. I agree, it's a lazy comparison. Not fair to RG3 at all.

I called griffin a better Michael Vick with the disclaimer that I hated the comparison. In every respect, griffin is superior. However, you can't hate on the comparison too much because Vick is the closest thing to griffin that has ever been in the league. That's why I honestly prefer griffin to luck. A player with his athleticism, passing accuracy, intelligence, and leadership has never played the position. Never. Vick caused enormous problems for defenses because if his ability to make plays with his feet... And he wasn't as much of a passing theat. Imagine the problems griffin would create. He could be nearly unstoppable.

Luck is great, but he can be stopped with a tradition defense as long as players do their job. Griffin is going to require a lot of exotic defensive schemes. I he meets his potential, the only way defenses will be able to stop him is if he makes a mistake.

MTK
03-22-2012, 12:01 PM
I know we've all got RG3 fever, but I think alot of people continue to underestimate Luck's athleticism. He can get out of the pocket and make things happen too. He's not just a pocket guy.

mbedner3420
03-22-2012, 12:06 PM
I know we've all got RG3 fever, but I think alot of people continue to underestimate Luck's athleticism. He can get out of the pocket and make things happen too. He's not just a pocket guy.

Didn't he run the same 40 time as Cam Newton? That is some serious athleticism for a guy his size.

SmootSmack
03-22-2012, 12:15 PM
Random question that may be in the wrong thread/may have already been asked.

If the Colts decide they want Luck and are able to ink him to a contract before the draft, and the Skins allowed to start negotiating with RGIII right away?

From what I recall, no. Either way the Colts aren't going to rush to sign their pick and neither will the Redskins. Not as much pressure as in previous years

Chico23231
03-22-2012, 12:24 PM
I called griffin a better Michael Vick with the disclaimer that I hated the comparison. In every respect, griffin is superior. However, you can't hate on the comparison too much because Vick is the closest thing to griffin that has ever been in the league. That's why I honestly prefer griffin to luck. A player with his athleticism, passing accuracy, intelligence, and leadership has never played the position. Never. Vick caused enormous problems for defenses because if his ability to make plays with his feet... And he wasn't as much of a passing theat. Imagine the problems griffin would create. He could be nearly unstoppable.

Luck is great, but he can be stopped with a tradition defense as long as players do their job. Griffin is going to require a lot of exotic defensive schemes. I he meets his potential, the only way defenses will be able to stop him is if he makes a mistake.

before anyone compares RG3 to Vick let him get on the field. The line could wrap around the planet several times who called Vick a bust back then. 10 years later runner up to MVP. laughable. People already puttin RG3 in the HOF. I remember Jamarcus Russell claimed to have the best pro day ever as well. scout were drooling.

Comparing Vick to RG3 is flat out retarded. Vick is an atheletic freak, and no one can compare. Vick happened to play QB and as a passer is pretty average, but still much better than people ever believed he would be. There will never be a another Vick. RG3 is a quarterback and needs to be compared to top passers who have come out the draft in the last 10 years.

Hog1
03-22-2012, 12:36 PM
Of ALL the BS, Speculation, JUBILATION, etc that I am want to enjoy with thoughts of RG3 or Luck. What I enjoy the most is the thought that the other respective members of the NFC East are thinking...........Uh-oh...
WAY tired of being a non-factor......

Monkeydad
03-22-2012, 12:45 PM
id be alot of sad, i like griffin over luck. i hope the colts dont want to move away from the manning mold

Luck fits the Colts offense. He's even more mobile than Manning which he'll need to be with their line.

Griffin fits ours perfectly.

Both teams will get exactly the QB they need. Swap the QBs and they'll still be successful, but Luck to the Colts and RG3 to us are the best fits.

I'm not worried about the Colts taking our guy. Reports are that they've had their mind made up for a while.


Jim Irsay seizes full control of Colts from Peyton Manning, ready to rebuild with Andrew Luck - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_jim_irsay_peyton_manning_colts_andrew_luck0 22512)

Recent news on Andrew Luck - College Player - Rotoworld.com (http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/6439/andrew-luck)
Next up: Like Manning, next rookie QB will start immediately | Indianapolis Star | indystar.com (http://www.indystar.com/article/20120309/SPORTS03/203090318/1058/SPORTS03)

skinsfaninok
03-22-2012, 01:48 PM
Luck fits the Colts offense. He's even more mobile than Manning which he'll need to be with their line.

Griffin fits ours perfectly.

Both teams will get exactly the QB they need. Swap the QBs and they'll still be successful, but Luck to the Colts and RG3 to us are the best fits.

I'm not worried about the Colts taking our guy. Reports are that they've had their mind made up for a while.


Jim Irsay seizes full control of Colts from Peyton Manning, ready to rebuild with Andrew Luck - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_jim_irsay_peyton_manning_colts_andrew_luck0 22512)

Recent news on Andrew Luck - College Player - Rotoworld.com (http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/6439/andrew-luck)
Next up: Like Manning, next rookie QB will start immediately | Indianapolis Star | indystar.com (http://www.indystar.com/article/20120309/SPORTS03/203090318/1058/SPORTS03)

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SirClintonPortis
03-22-2012, 01:50 PM
Didn't he run the same 40 time as Cam Newton? That is some serious athleticism for a guy his size.

Not officially. But one of his unofficial times did clock in at 4.59.

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