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Monkeydad 03-15-2012, 04:47 PM Come on guys, let's make merry and enjoy the merry weather.
/bad puns
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GTripp0012 03-15-2012, 04:49 PM I agree that we could have moved more quickly on Lowery and/or Pool but I don't question the FO for not retaining Landry or Atogwe. Landry has missed far more games than he's played the past two seasons and has bucked team medical advice. Right or wrong, that would raise questions of loyalty and responsibility to me, not to mention long term durability.
For Atogwe, he was rarely healthy, coming off of a couple of seasons where he was less than 100% healthy as well. Also, when he played his performance was subpar.
If we were responsible for '2 of the 5 best safeties on the market' as you stated, that has a lot to say about the quality of the market and not much bad to say about us.I can say that the decision to not slap the Franchise Tag on Landry raised a LOT of eyebrows across the league. I mean, it's one thing to determine the safeties are the main reason we had poor pass defense (I don't disagree -- particularly when Landry was out), it's another thing to fear a player in the prime of his career so much you let him walk for nothing. He's damaged goods, so he's probably not going to get guaranteed money in excess of $8 million, but still. With all the options the Redskins had to keep Landry around, it's safe to say they would have released him even if he had a year left on his contract.
The way we as fans felt when Eric Winston got cut? That's how other teams felt when Landry didn't get the tag.
Atogwe was the kind of guy who you don't cut if you don't like the market, but move on from if you have a better option.
I do think they view Meriweather more of a Landry replacement than an Atogwe replacement.
A lot of the Landry issue comes down to who you trust to recommend the best interest of his future: Landry and his doctors, or the Redskins and their doctors. I know a lot of teams with medical staffs who would be very happy to get their hands on our 'problem' at a medical discount.
The Goat 03-15-2012, 05:04 PM A lot of the Landry issue comes down to who you trust to recommend the best interest of his future: Landry and his doctors, or the Redskins and their doctors. I know a lot of teams with medical staffs who would be very happy to get their hands on our 'problem' at a medical discount.
Link?
GTripp0012 03-15-2012, 05:10 PM Link?You're not going to find other teams information on the internet.
Ruhskins 03-15-2012, 05:11 PM If people are this fed up with the team then maybe is time to seek another team to follow. And I try to say that in the most respectable way. In my opinion I have seen worst decisions made by this team in the past (McNabb, Haynesworth, TJ Duckett, Spurrier, Archuleta, etc., etc.) But if signing Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, and Brandon Merriweather are what cause fans to boil and lose it...then maybe nothing the team will do satisfy you. Just my humble opinion.
Although I will admit that I have no season tickets, so I don't have a lot of money invested/tied to this team. So maybe that changes my perception.
RGIII 03-15-2012, 05:18 PM Merriweather is simply another stop gap saftey. If a late round gem is found in this year's draft, he'll be replaced. If not, June 1st cuts or next year's off-season may yield a better option.
The Goat 03-15-2012, 05:20 PM You're not going to find other teams information on the internet.
Oh right...so you're aware of all the interest in LL how then?
C'mon dude, let's hope Meriweather can turn things around here w/ a great DB coach. My assumption is Morris has significant input on our secondary now, so he probably thinks Meriweather can do something here. Let's give them both a shot.
Lotus 03-15-2012, 05:25 PM Merriweather is simply another stop gap saftey. If a late round gem is found in this year's draft, he'll be replaced. If not, June 1st cuts or next year's off-season may yield a better option.
Excellent summary.
KI Skins Fan 03-15-2012, 06:05 PM I can say that the decision to not slap the Franchise Tag on Landry raised a LOT of eyebrows across the league. I mean, it's one thing to determine the safeties are the main reason we had poor pass defense (I don't disagree -- particularly when Landry was out), it's another thing to fear a player in the prime of his career so much you let him walk for nothing. He's damaged goods, so he's probably not going to get guaranteed money in excess of $8 million, but still. With all the options the Redskins had to keep Landry around, it's safe to say they would have released him even if he had a year left on his contract.
The way we as fans felt when Eric Winston got cut? That's how other teams felt when Landry didn't get the tag.
Atogwe was the kind of guy who you don't cut if you don't like the market, but move on from if you have a better option.
I do think they view Meriweather more of a Landry replacement than an Atogwe replacement.
A lot of the Landry issue comes down to who you trust to recommend the best interest of his future: Landry and his doctors, or the Redskins and their doctors. I know a lot of teams with medical staffs who would be very happy to get their hands on our 'problem' at a medical discount.
I like that Mike Shanahan is decisive. I neither know nor care why MS doesn't want Atogwe and Landry on his team. If Mike decides that a player should go, then I'm fine with his getting rid of that player and moving on to someone else as quickly as he can. I trust his judgement. You apparently don't.
It seems to me that you don't think that Redskins management is performing their due diligence and making well-reasoned judgments and decisions about players. I do.
I think that they have a plan that they are executing in a professional manner. We'll know soon enough if the plan works. That's really all I care about.
Next season, Mike will be judged on wins and losses and not on individual player transactions. It's his job to build a winner and it's strictly a pass/fail test based on how many wins Dan Snyder considers acceptable.
GTripp0012 03-15-2012, 06:10 PM I like that Mike Shanahan is decisive. I neither know nor care why MS doesn't want Atogwe and Landry on his team. If Mike decides that a player should go, then I'm fine with his getting rid of that player and moving on to someone else as quickly as he can. I trust his judgement. You apparently don't.
Next season, Mike will be judged on wins and losses and not on individual player transactions. It's his job to build a winner and it's strictly a pass/fail test based on how many wins Dan Snyder considers acceptable.I can't think of one reason why I would trust his judgment on defensive backs if all the evidence were to suggest he's making an error.
But yes, I also believe how you build your team in the offseason is only a little bit related to who wins the big game at the end of the year, so if he comes out like the game coach he was in 2005 and wins 10 games, no one -- least of which myself -- will care how good or bad the defense was.
If his gamble is he can outscore everyone he plays, he has more than enough clout to make the gamble. He just has to win it.
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