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He asked for the trade.........so he does not want to be here.......and he has been 50/50 his whole career..........the guy makes the hard plays look easy, then he makes an easy play look hard. There has been no consistence with him. At least Coles, Thrash, have been consistent through there careers.

I think this is adding buy subtraction. I would like to get something for him, but there is only one Vinne C. in the league.

This is amusing to me. From this thread we can identify the poor sods who bought a Gardner authentic jersey.

How many times in the draft threads have people said "It really takes years for receivers to come around." Gardner is one of those receivers. He can make some big plays, and when Brunell was at QB got a lot more looks than Coles. Then when the QB changed, and we got a QB that could complete a wide open pass, Coles got more looks because I feel Ramsey really likes Coles.

Matty - it doesn't take a doctor to see how Coles' injury is hampering him. He's going much slower, and the WP had an article a while ago that mentioned without the surgery he probably won't be the same athelete again. I'm sure they did their research. Stop with the whole doctor thing, Coles is hurting and I can respect if he wants to forego surgery, but if he's sitting on the bench in two years, I don't wanna hear shit from the guy.

It is true how the fans and media liked to make excuses for EVERYONE but Rod Gardner, he took a brunt of the blame for the anemic Redskin offense, because god knows we can't blame Saint Joe Gibbs. You can only catch what's thrown to you, and the dropped balls between our top two wideouts were a lot more even than we want to admit.

I feel Rod Gardner certainly has his shortcomings, but the Redskins could do MUCH worse. I personally would rather see him stay, because I don't really like the WR prospects coming out of college this year, and he's pretty cheap (of course to trade him next year we'd have to franchise, etc) I agree, for the most part, with Jamf.

This is amusing to me. From this thread we can identify the poor sods who bought a Gardner authentic jersey.

LOL!!! :laughing-


Seriously though, Rod Gardner had a very good rookie season and has not been able to duplicate that performance since then. You can say that Joe Gibbs is using Rod Gardner as a scapegoat all ya want, but the truth is, Gardner is the one who is seeking a trade. Furthermore, he had that nickname 50/50 before Joe Gibbs got here, so tell me, would you want a receiver that only catches 50% of the passes thrown to him. Actually, the numbers were worse than that...toward the end of the season, his numbers actually showed from what I remember his catch percentage was in the forties!

One more thing, it doesn't matter that Gardner was playing in another system. As matter of fact, this system should be easier to adjust to than what Spurrier's system was, so I'm not buying that excuse. When the ball is dropping toward your hands or it's heading between the numbers, if you're a pro, you had better catch at least 80% of those passes! Sure, Gardner had some nice catches this year, but he had alot of drops this year as well. I don't hate Gardner, but I say good riddance!

How many times in the draft threads have people said "It really takes years for receivers to come around."


I agree that not everybody can come out on the field as a rookie and burn it up, but by your third or fourth season, you should have a higher percentage of completions.

Rod is gone if we can't trade him we'll probably cut him, I think the team has made the decision to move on. And if Rod himself is looking to get out as it's been reported, it's obvious it's time for both sides to move on. He will probably benefit from the change of scenery. Of course I'm sure some probably think he's being 'pushed out'.

I'm tired of the few that make excuses for the guy. I don't know how many more drops or dumb penalties he has to have before we all agree he's an underachiever. With Rod it's all about potential, he's had 4 full seasons with us now, he had one 'good' season with just over 1000 yards, other than that he's underachieved and been wildly inconsistent. I don't know how anyone can deny that. His supporters want to keep pointing to his one good season, well how about the other 3 that were mediocre??

As for Coles and his toe, I'll stick with my claim that we're not doctors so who are we to say he 'needs' to have the surgery. If his doctors aren't telling him he needs it, who are we to say he needs it?? It's well known the surgery could potentially end his career, so if he has it and he's forced to retire, where does that leave us? I'd rather have Coles at less than 100% than not at all. Coles knows his situation and his body a hell of a lot better than we do, so why can't we respect his decision and leave it alone?

I agree that not everybody can come out on the field as a rookie and burn it up, but by your third or fourth season, you should have a higher percentage of completions.

I agree, my opinion is you have to give a WR 3-4 seasons to develop, well, Rod has had 4. Time to move on.

Exactly. I think he'll still be able to burn people outwright in the coming year.

I'm not personally a Gardner "fan", but I would hate to see us get nothing for him. Then again, I DID forget that he asked to leave. And since that's the case, a 4th rounder would be welcomed I would think.

I get the impression from Gibbs's brief statement about a potential trade, that RG might not want to be with the team. We certainly don't need a guy who can't produce on a consistent basis. By the way, "jamf", you mentioned that Gibbs should take the blame for disappointing seasons from Brunell, Portis, Coles, etc. In case you haven't paid attention, Gibbs is the first person to accept the blame and the last to point fingers. I do agree that the offense MUST improve, but accusing Gibbs of "not being able to admit his failures" is just plain stupid! I guess you're one of those fair weather fans who whines when things go bad and will end up praising Gibbs once we start winning. I suggest you eat your words! :argue:

This is amusing to me. From this thread we can identify the poor sods who bought a Gardner authentic jersey.

:laughing2 my ass off!