Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan


30gut
03-17-2012, 02:31 AM
I agree with your points, but if Kyle decides none of the guys stand out from each other (i.e. we have a collective group of #2's but not one clear guy we can always depend on to beat the d) and then schemes to exploit mismatches on d, then the relevance of the #1 wide receiver is minimized. But if he decides to draw up plays designed to get Garcon the ball the most, then yes Garcon would be defined as the #1. I think the best definition of '#1' WR comes from how the defense defends the WR in question.

A true '#1' WR is a player that a defense will gameplan to stop/limit by using various coverage schemes designed to take that player away.

I think most teams design play concepts that fit both of the ideas you mentioned above.
There are certain plays designed to get a particular receiver X, Z, or Y (etc) the ball e.g. WR screen plays, 1 man or 2 man routes off play action etc.
But, more often then not teams design plays with multiple options designed to attack a particular coverage with the intent to get a primary receiver open then (based on the defenses coverage as the QB reads his post snap progressions post snaps) get receivers option 2, 3 and sometimes even 4 and 5 open if the defense tries to take option #1 away.
That's why its critical to have a QB that can smoothly transition from their primary option to their secondary and tertiary options.

If you go back to 2010 I think it was clear that Moss, although not a 'true' No.1 receiver, was our number 1 receiving option and was targeted 146 times and the results were top 10 production in both yards and catches: 93 for 1,115.

Pro Football Focus did a nice breakdown of Sanatana Moss from 2010:
2010 Snap Breakdown - Santana Moss | ProFootballFocus.com (http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/17/2010-snap-breakdown-santana-moss/)

If Kyle keeps Moss or the slot WR as his focus as they've been doing the past couple of seasons then Moss/slot WRs numbers could actually improve from 2010 with the increased performance from the X and Z receivers respectively. (however it shakes out Garcon/Gaffney or Garcon/Morgan etc)
The upgrade to the WR corps as a unit will have a postive and somewhat symbiotic effect between the X, Z and slot receivers where the improved play from from 1 receiver position forces the defense to adjust which in turn makes it easier for the other receivers production to increase.

skinsfaninok
03-17-2012, 07:31 AM
Aa didn't even play last year it seemed like

EARTHQUAKE2689
03-17-2012, 01:25 PM
Pierre Garcon WITH GREAT MOVES! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl1-Ye5NV6Q)

The Goat
03-17-2012, 10:04 PM
Pierre Garcon WITH GREAT MOVES! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl1-Ye5NV6Q)

That was impressive...he's got speed and agility.

44Deezel
03-17-2012, 10:40 PM
I agree with your points, but if Kyle decides none of the guys stand out from each other (i.e. we have a collective group of #2's but not one clear guy we can always depend on to beat the d) and then schemes to exploit mismatches on d, then the relevance of the #1 wide receiver is minimized. But if he decides to draw up plays designed to get Garcon the ball the most, then yes Garcon would be defined as the #1.

Either way, I'm not as low on Kyle here as others are, and I do believe now that we have guys we can depend on to make plays, Kyle S. will put them in position to do so. If it turns out that Hankerson or Garcon is our true #1 wideout, so be it. I just want points on the board, and to not be hamstrung by our crappy quarterback.

Fred Davis.

DynamiteRave
03-17-2012, 10:45 PM
I haven't been here in a few days and I'll admit I'm kind of lazy and I don't wanna read back.

Did the Royal deal fall through? Or are we still in talks?

los panda
03-17-2012, 10:48 PM
he signed a 3yr deal w the chargers. i don't know why we didn't want to beat it if we wasted all that money on his steak dinner jeepers creepers

That Guy
03-18-2012, 01:04 AM
he signed a 3yr deal w the chargers. i don't know why we didn't want to beat it if we wasted all that money on his steak dinner jeepers creepers

cause they hadn't finished josh morgan yet, and once they got that news they probably knew 3 wrs was one too many... so they asked what else he had lined up and told him that SD sounded like a good idea.

my opinion only, but it seems like the most reasonable explanation.

los panda
03-18-2012, 01:14 AM
for the weather

SirClintonPortis
03-18-2012, 02:16 AM
It's obvious that he feels he has a better shot at getting playing time. Malcolm Floyd is a career #2 who is old. Vincent Brown is unproven. Meachem is also unproven.

Whereas here, we have a substantial investment in Hankerson, and Garcon has shown more mojo than anyone currently on San Diego's roster. Add to that Morgan's blocking practically assures Morgan playing time, and the prospects are dim for Royal to be more than a bench warmer most of the time.

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