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REDSKINS4ever 06-17-2012, 11:30 AM It seems Santana Moss is attempting to get the explosiveness back that he had around six or seven years ago. Dropping 15 pounds will aid in his speed. With the new weapons Garcon and Morgan in addition to RG3, the Redskins will surely improve upon that terrible 18 point a game average from last season. If by chance they can score over 30 points in at least six of their games something tells me that they could not only win the NFC East, but go deep into the playoffs.
CultBrennan59 06-17-2012, 12:20 PM It seems Santana Moss is attempting to get the explosiveness back that he had around six or seven years ago. Dropping 15 pounds will aid in his speed. With the new weapons Garcon and Morgan in addition to RG3, the Redskins will surely improve upon that terrible 18 point a game average from last season. If by chance they can score over 30 points in at least six of their games something tells me that they could not only win the NFC East, but go deep into the playoffs.
He may get faster, but he is also losing that extra weight/padding with his bones taking harder hits; thus more injury prone. I hope he stays healthy but we'll see.
over the mountain 06-17-2012, 12:47 PM moss always seems to be pretty good at avoiding the big, direct hit, whether its tap dancing his way our of bounds, doing that twirly move he does or sliding down. that said, it only takes one shot.
im excited to see moss finally being moved to the slot where he should have been years ago, we finally seem to have the right personnel at WR to do it. i dont now about garcon though, im not sure he is a legit no 1. good 2, just not a legit no 1.
The Goat 06-18-2012, 01:47 AM Moss is very likely to have most yards among the WR corp for several reasons. The biggest is his knowledge of the system/playbook, and also because that comfort level on the field goes such a long way. His level of comfort/confidence will make him a favorite target for Griffin.
But there are other important reasons Moss is the favorite. Garcon is certainly the other favorite candidate for the title, but the only system/playbook he's known at the pro level is very different from ours. I've watched all the youtube highlights I can find on Garcon and notice two big things about the Indy offense. Most receptions seem to happen right after the snap w/ a quick slant or a well placed ball right over the shoulder about 25-35 yards down-field. It's a system that emphasizes quickness/speed by the WR and accuracy by the QB, all things Indy had plenty of throughout the Peyton era. Griffin can probably make both plays, and maybe we'll see the dynamic duo (mike and kyle) change the offense. But I kinda doubt it. Probably more drop backs, roll-outs and play-action. And these tend to emphasize the WR finding open areas on the field IMO. Tana is very good at it. Garcon may be as well but I just didn't see it much/enough in the highlights to say. He seemed to struggle working underneath. On the other hand he looked fearless going across the middle more than a few times.
Morgan and Hankerson aren't likely to compete for the top WR spot. Both have injury concerns and little knowledge/familiarity in the system and playbook.
EARTHQUAKE2689 06-18-2012, 01:52 AM Moss is very likely to have most yards among the WR corp for several reasons. The biggest is his knowledge of the system/playbook, and also because that comfort level on the field goes such a long way. His level of comfort/confidence will make him a favorite target for Griffin.
But there are other important reasons Moss is the favorite. Garcon is certainly the other favorite candidate for the title, but the only system/playbook he's known at the pro level is very different from ours. I've watched all the youtube highlights I can find on Garcon and notice two big things about the Indy offense. Most receptions seem to happen right after the snap w/ a quick slant or a well placed ball right over the shoulder about 25-35 yards down-field. It's a system that emphasizes quickness/speed by the WR and accuracy by the QB, all things Indy had plenty of throughout the Peyton era. Griffin can probably make both plays, and maybe we'll see the dynamic duo (mike and kyle) change the offense. But I kinda doubt it. Probably more drop backs, roll-outs and play-action. And these tend to emphasize the WR finding open areas on the field IMO. Tana is very good at it. Garcon may be as well but I just didn't see it much/enough in the highlights to say. He seemed to struggle working underneath. On the other hand he looked fearless going across the middle more than a few times.
Morgan and Hankerson aren't likely to compete for the top WR spot. Both have injury concerns and little knowledge/familiarity in the system and playbook.
By the time the season starts they all will know the system.
EARTHQUAKE2689 06-18-2012, 01:54 AM Moss is very likely to have most yards among the WR corp for several reasons. The biggest is his knowledge of the system/playbook, and also because that comfort level on the field goes such a long way. His level of comfort/confidence will make him a favorite target for Griffin.
But there are other important reasons Moss is the favorite. Garcon is certainly the other favorite candidate for the title, but the only system/playbook he's known at the pro level is very different from ours. I've watched all the youtube highlights I can find on Garcon and notice two big things about the Indy offense. Most receptions seem to happen right after the snap w/ a quick slant or a well placed ball right over the shoulder about 25-35 yards down-field. It's a system that emphasizes quickness/speed by the WR and accuracy by the QB, all things Indy had plenty of throughout the Peyton era. Griffin can probably make both plays, and maybe we'll see the dynamic duo (mike and kyle) change the offense. But I kinda doubt it. Probably more drop backs, roll-outs and play-action. And these tend to emphasize the WR finding open areas on the field IMO. Tana is very good at it. Garcon may be as well but I just didn't see it much/enough in the highlights to say. He seemed to struggle working underneath. On the other hand he looked fearless going across the middle more than a few times.
Morgan and Hankerson aren't likely to compete for the top WR spot. Both have injury concerns and little knowledge/familiarity in the system and playbook.
By your logic, Arellious Benn will have more yards than Vincent Jackson, and since when does Pierre Garcon have injury concerns
The Goat 06-18-2012, 02:13 AM By your logic, Arellious Benn will have more yards than Vincent Jackson, and since when does Pierre Garcon have injury concerns
Don't see where I said Garcon has injury issues...never heard of any. You seem to relish pointing out how I always have "bad" logic. They're my opinions from observation, nothing more, and you don't seem to have a response other than "that sucks." Just put me on the ignore list or something, ok?
los panda 06-18-2012, 03:32 AM By your logic, Arellious Benn will have more yards than Vincent Jackson, and since when does Pierre Garcon have injury concernsby your logic, will = is very likely to
please choose the most appropriate phrase:
don rickles is very likely to die.
don rickles will die.
REDSKINS4ever 06-18-2012, 05:25 AM moss always seems to be pretty good at avoiding the big, direct hit, whether its tap dancing his way our of bounds, doing that twirly move he does or sliding down. that said, it only takes one shot.
im excited to see moss finally being moved to the slot where he should have been years ago, we finally seem to have the right personnel at WR to do it. i dont now about garcon though, im not sure he is a legit no 1. good 2, just not a legit no 1.
Garcon is a legit #1 receiver simply because he's being paid like one. We've seen flashes of good receiving from him during his time in Indy. But he wasn't a #1 receiver then. We shouldn't expect for him to put up Megatron type numbers, but then again he just might.
Lotus 06-18-2012, 08:29 AM Garcon is a legit #1 receiver simply because he's being paid like one. We've seen flashes of good receiving from him during his time in Indy. But he wasn't a #1 receiver then. We shouldn't expect for him to put up Megatron type numbers, but then again he just might.
I'm not sure that a pay check alone makes someone a "legit" #1 receiver.
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