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DynamiteRave 04-05-2012, 11:10 PM You're right. Hankerson and Garcon are better than Gaffney. But the one thing Gaffney brings to the table is veteran experience. He might just be another receiver as you put it, but the guy has always been underrated. Jabar Gaffney isn't the best WR int he NFL by far, but when he's underestimated, he shows up to play.
How is what you said any different than what Moss brings to the table?
Moss is smaller but faster, Gaffney is bigger but stronger. Moss has given us several 1000+ yard seasons. Gaffney's given us....... none.
That's about where the differences end. Gaffney is just as expendable as Moss (or more so).
DynamiteRave 04-05-2012, 11:11 PM Gaffney also didn't have Fred Davis the last 4 games so who were we gonna throw to? He's been a Redskin for 1 season, has never had a 1,000 yard season, has been in the league since 2002, is 31 years old, and we have 4 WRs on the roster better than him. I'm including Hankerson before he got hurt was looking good and I see breakout year for him. Gaffney is just another guy. A dime a dozen kind of WR. Name another team Gaffney would start for. **Kat Williams voice: Don't worry I'll wait"**
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gangstalicious 04-06-2012, 01:22 AM You mean A Pimp Named Slickback?
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EARTHQUAKE2689 04-06-2012, 02:48 AM You're right. Hankerson and Garcon are better than Gaffney. But the one thing Gaffney brings to the table is veteran experience. He might just be another receiver as you put it, but the guy has always been underrated. Jabar Gaffney isn't the best WR int he NFL by far, but when he's underestimated, he shows up to play.
Garcon > Gaffney
Hankerson > Gaffney
Morgan > Gaffney
Moss > Gaffney
So I have 4 players of the same position and I'm supposed to keep you for veteran experience? Hell no. Moss brings that same veteran experience and is a better player. Sorry Gaffney you're the odd man out. Especially if we draft a WR.
REDSKINS4ever 04-06-2012, 03:32 AM How is what you said any different than what Moss brings to the table?
Moss is smaller but faster, Gaffney is bigger but stronger. Moss has given us several 1000+ yard seasons. Gaffney's given us....... none.
That's about where the differences end. Gaffney is just as expendable as Moss (or more so).
I didn't mention Moss because we are so familiar with him and what he's done over the years. Gaffney just ended up being our most productive receiver last season. You have to give him credit for that.
EARTHQUAKE2689 04-06-2012, 03:34 AM If Fred Davis doesn't get suspended he's easily the most productive pass catcher.
REDSKINS4ever 04-06-2012, 03:35 AM Garcon > Gaffney
Hankerson > Gaffney
Morgan > Gaffney
Moss > Gaffney
So I have 4 players of the same position and I'm supposed to keep you for veteran experience? Hell no. Moss brings that same veteran experience and is a better player. Sorry Gaffney you're the odd man out. Especially if we draft a WR.
Garcon and Gaffney had similar statistics by the end of last season. Both caught a lot of passes and both had just under 1,000 yards receiving. Hankerson has talent and has potential, but we're still basing him off of what he did in college. He's still unproven in the NFL. Morgan is a great fill in receiver and we are already familiar with Santana Moss. Gaffney won't be the odd man out when it comes to roster cuts. Anthony Armstrong will likely be released by preseason's end.
EARTHQUAKE2689 04-06-2012, 03:49 AM Garcon and Gaffney had similar statistics by the end of last season. Both caught a lot of passes and both had just under 1,000 yards receiving. Hankerson has talent and has potential, but we're still basing him off of what he did in college. He's still unproven in the NFL. Morgan is a great fill in receiver and we are already familiar with Santana Moss. Gaffney won't be the odd man out when it comes to roster cuts. Anthony Armstrong will likely be released by preseason's end.
Armstrong gone, Anderson gone, Banks gone, Austin gone, Gaffney gone,
Hankerson/Garcon/Morgan/Moss/Paul/Draft pick or Robinson
Gaffney played one year for us and had a career season. Congrats to him, if we didn't feel we needed an upgrade we wouldn't have gotten two and tried for a 3rd. Bye bye Gaffney. It's been real, it's been fun but it hasn't been real fun.
REDSKINS4ever 04-06-2012, 03:57 AM Armstrong gone, Anderson gone, Banks gone, Austin gone, Gaffney gone,
Hankerson/Garcon/Morgan/Moss/Paul/Draft pick or Robinson
Gaffney played one year for us and had a career season. Congrats to him, if we didn't feel we needed an upgrade we wouldn't have gotten two and tried for a 3rd. Bye bye Gaffney. It's been real, it's been fun but it hasn't been real fun.
If Aldrick Robinson does attain a roster spot and Gaffney is released that will really surprise me. The most productive receiver from the previous season getting the ax and a practice squad player all last year surviving the final cut? Seems doubtful but we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?
GTripp0012 04-06-2012, 03:58 AM Garcon > Gaffney
Hankerson > Gaffney
Morgan > Gaffney
Moss > Gaffney
So I have 4 players of the same position and I'm supposed to keep you for veteran experience? Hell no. Moss brings that same veteran experience and is a better player. Sorry Gaffney you're the odd man out. Especially if we draft a WR.I'll say this: Kyle has a tendency to play his favored WR at the Z in base personnel, so that he's front side and able to run route combinations with the TE and off-set FB. Moss played the Z in base personnel in 2010, while Armstrong, Galloway, and Roydell Williams shared the X. Moss was targeted more than 140 times in 2010.
In 2011, Gaffney played the Z. That was right from the first game. There was no obvious reason to move Moss out of the role he played in 2010 unless they were trying to improve offensive efficiency. And if they were trying to improve offensive efficiency, then they obviously decided that the ball should go to Gaffney more in run-oriented downs than to Moss.
What we're effectively trying to replace here is the role that Donte Stallworth played last season. If the Redskins choose to cut Moss and switch Gaffney's position and make Gaffney the "slot" guy next year (despite no prior usage in that role in his career), there would be precedent for them doing that, having done the same thing with Moss a year ago. I think it's an easier move for Moss to simply sit more and play the role he did last year, when applicable.
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