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KI Skins Fan 03-26-2012, 09:49 AM No idea. Sometimes, because I spend just about every working day of my life surrounded by sports news and info, I like to just "get away from it all." So for the past three days-other than stumbling across the Dennis Dixon news and Sean Payton potentially to Fox Sports-I have been totally out of the loop, on purpose. Just needed some time away from sports for a minute. A few more days and I'll get back in it. Right now though, I'm all about old school re-runs on Antenna TV
What you talkin' bout, SmootSmack?
Actually, that sounds DYN-O-MITE!
NC_Skins 03-26-2012, 12:04 PM No idea. Sometimes, because I spend just about every working day of my life surrounded by sports news and info, I like to just "get away from it all." So for the past three days-other than stumbling across the Dennis Dixon news and Sean Payton potentially to Fox Sports-I have been totally out of the loop, on purpose. Just needed some time away from sports for a minute. A few more days and I'll get back in it. Right now though, I'm all about old school re-runs on Antenna TV
Don't blame you. Enjoy that time off. ;)
That Guy 03-26-2012, 01:45 PM Miami got a 2nd rounder for Welker when they got him for free basically. Only team that hands the Pats one sided deals are the Raiders.
miami got a 3rd rounder, which is rediculous. I'd rather have 3+ seasons of 1000+ yards and 100+ catches than a 3rd round pick. regardless of what miami paid to get him, they're still on the stupid side of that trade.
mredskins 03-26-2012, 01:56 PM miami got a 3rd rounder, which is rediculous. I'd rather have 3+ seasons of 1000+ yards and 100+ catches than a 3rd round pick. regardless of what miami paid to get him, they're still on the stupid side of that trade.
Without Tom I don't know if Welker would be have been this good.
NC_Skins 03-26-2012, 02:41 PM miami got a 3rd rounder, which is rediculous. I'd rather have 3+ seasons of 1000+ yards and 100+ catches than a 3rd round pick. regardless of what miami paid to get him, they're still on the stupid side of that trade.
Actually, they got a 2nd rounder AND 7th round selection for Welker from the Pats.
How Patriots grabbed wide receiver Wes Welker from Dolphins - The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/10/17/patriots_pounced_fast_to_grab_welker/)
The Dolphins were amenable, shipping Welker to the Patriots for second- and seventh-round draft choices.
Wes Welker Stats - New England Patriots - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5941/wes-welker)
At the time of the trade, Miami made out like a bandit.
Look at his numbers in Miami the two years.
2005-----29 recs 434yards
2006-----67recs 687 yards
Getting a 2nd and 7th rounder for a guy that only produced those kinds of stats is a work of genius really. Especially for a undrafted free agent.
30gut 03-26-2012, 03:01 PM Smart teams make system specific personnel moves not based on the players previous production with their former team.
Smart teams make value based decisions based on thier projection for the player in their system for his defined role.
Ruhskins 03-26-2012, 03:38 PM So back to current stuff, the Rams sign Steve Smith 2.0.
mooby 03-26-2012, 03:41 PM So back to current stuff, the Rams sign Steve Smith 2.0.
I thought he showed great promise back in the day in New York, when he had that 100 catch season, but ever since he got injured it appears he hasn't been the same. I thought Philly was getting a steal this time last year, and one year later he's with the Rams. I guess this is a low risk/high reward scenario for the Rams.
That Guy 03-26-2012, 06:05 PM Actually, they got a 2nd rounder AND 7th round selection for Welker from the Pats.
How Patriots grabbed wide receiver Wes Welker from Dolphins - The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/10/17/patriots_pounced_fast_to_grab_welker/)
Wes Welker Stats - New England Patriots - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5941/wes-welker)
At the time of the trade, Miami made out like a bandit.
Look at his numbers in Miami the two years.
2005-----29 recs 434yards
2006-----67recs 687 yards
Getting a 2nd and 7th rounder for a guy that only produced those kinds of stats is a work of genius really. Especially for a undrafted free agent.
if you saw him play, you knew he was better than those stats and miami wasn't using him right. I think I said it was a steal at the time. Miami's offense wasn't exactly amazing back then (not that it's all that much better now).
REDSKINS4ever 03-27-2012, 07:28 AM Smart teams make system specific personnel moves not based on the players previous production with their former team.
Smart teams make value based decisions based on thier projection for the player in their system for his defined role.
This is why most of the players that Vinny Cerratto signed through free agency didn't work out because of this very reason. While Cerratto did have some talent at scouting and selecting young players in the draft at times, his eye for free agent talent was extremely poor because he only saw how that particular player performed in his initial system and not how that player WOULD perform for us. This why Adam Archuletta, Brandon Lloyd, and so many others that he signed through free agency didn't turn out well.
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