NFL taking away Redskins cap space

Problem with that analogy is that the Tuck Rule was, you know, the rule. What we did was also the rule and they're trying to retroactively punish us for following the rules. Again, the analogy would be punishing the Pats for benifitting from the rule that was in place at the time.

If this goes to court, the NFL would have to get on the stand and admit that they are punishing us for not going along with collusion. I don't know how they think they can get away with that.

I also don't know how they think they can punish us the full amount of the Haynesworth and Hall bonuses, but the Bears are in fact rewarded with extra cap space in spite of the way they did the Peppers contract.

This whole thing is outright lunacy.

That's one reason why this will likely never go to court. Another is that owners (excepting Al Davis, once) don't bite the hand that feeds them by suing the NFL.

There are owners meetings at the end of March. Danny and Jerry will moan and perhaps threaten a lawsuit. People will get upset. But then calmer heads will prevail and the penalties will be reduced. At least, IMO, that's how this will shake out.

That's one reason why this will likely never go to court. Another is that owners (excepting Al Davis, once) don't bite the hand that feeds them by suing the NFL.

There are owners meetings at the end of March. Danny and Jerry will moan and perhaps threaten a lawsuit. People will get upset. But then calmer heads will prevail and the penalties will be reduced. At least, IMO, that's how this will shake out.

That's entirely useless to use given that free agency starts tomorrow...

I say we go about FA exactly to plan prior to this debacle...file a motion for temp injunction...gather as many troops as possible... and go to the owners meetings and start dropping bombs. The two most valuable (money-wise) teams plus I am sure a few others that have to be a little miffed about this can probably get this straightened back out.

I think a fair solution is this. Any team that dumped any money into 2010 gets punished uniformly. That money goes to the teams that didn't. If there are too many that did the dumping then forget it and move on. Oh and make some adjustments for what players would have earned anyways in 2010 and allow the docked cap space to be spread over a more reasonable 5 years. Any owners who want to bitch and moan...Jerry and Dan can tell 'em to eff themselves, they can buy their team and fold it (that last part was a little poetic license and completely unreasonable I know)

That's entirely useless to use given that free agency starts tomorrow...

I was gonna say that.

And I think they're really testing the "owners don't sue the league" line by selectively punishing teams that followed a rule and effectively kneecapping Snyder's chances to build a team right when he finally had his coach, QB, other pieces and big cap room aligned. I don't see him taking that lying down, and will be mad if he does.

That's entirely useless to use given that free agency starts tomorrow...

Not really. We have the option of pushing the entire penalty back to 2013, or paying it however we see fit. If we don't pay any of it now and continue forward as planned, and jerr-Dan raise hell at the owners meetings and get the penalty reduced, we'll probably incur some form of penalty but hopefully nowhere near as significant as this one.

That's entirely useless to use given that free agency starts tomorrow...

No it is not useless. We can act in free agency as if there will be little to no penalty on the premise that things will change. Besides, we have two years to meet the penalty in the worst case.

If I'm Bruce Allen I'm approaching FA as if nothing has changed.

The fact that FA starts tomorrow is irrelevant, we're not going to sign enough guys tomorrow to make the lowered cap meaningful. And I suspect the plan right now is to say eff it and go about FA as always planned. Based on Allen's statement that is.

Not really. We have the option of pushing the entire penalty back to 2013, or paying it however we see fit. If we don't pay any of it now and continue forward as planned, and jerr-Dan raise hell at the owners meetings and get the penalty reduced, we'll probably incur some form of penalty but hopefully nowhere near as significant as this one.

Yet again great minds think alike.

No it doesn't. And hopefully it won't.

But I was just making a joke because someone seemed to mock the idea of doing something about teams that were below the salary floor in 2010 because 'you can't just go back and apply rules retroactively' or whatever. Sorry the attempt at levity was apparently not up to your standards.

Ah I must've missed it. It's all good bro.

I expect the skins to still go heavy for Jackson and possibly garcon too