GTripp0012
03-13-2012, 01:04 AM
I also don't know how they think they can punish us the full amount of the Haynesworth and Hall bonuses, but the Bears are in fact rewarded with extra cap space in spite of the way they did the Peppers contract.
This whole thing is outright lunacy.It's been ridiculously inconsistent, which is why I expect that if the Redskins push hard enough, the league will give it up.
FRPLG
03-13-2012, 01:11 AM
I find it hard to get too mad at Godell. He works for the owners if enough of them say jump he has to say "how high?"
The league had to know that neither Snyder or Jones were going to just bend over. But Rog had to try to do somwthing to appease his bosses.
biffle
03-13-2012, 01:12 AM
It's been ridiculously inconsistent, which is why I expect that if the Redskins push hard enough, the league will give it up.
Yeah, my guess would be that we agree to some some minor, token penalty so the league can save face and we can stay on everyone's good side.
But then I can't figure what the league was doing. They basically gave away 160 mil in cap to the union to get this, plus I assume they're going to have to continue to give those teams the 1.6 mil. That's a lot to give up not knowing if this punishment was going to stand. And they must have seen the Redskin reaction and the enforcement problems coming. Or one would think.
mooby
03-13-2012, 01:13 AM
I wouldn't have thought so either, but have you been following the news this afternoon?
No I haven't been following the news, what's going on?
Just because the NFL attempted to punish the Redskins for breaking an unwritten rule doesn't mean the punishment will stand up in court.
skinsfaninok
03-13-2012, 01:14 AM
Good for u man, congrats.
Thanks man
mooby
03-13-2012, 01:14 AM
OK been out for a few( new baby boy) so what's the latest on this cap crap?
Congrats!
JoeRedskin
03-13-2012, 01:18 AM
But your talking about a league that looked at a trade scenario and said no you can't do it. They didn't approve it and later cry foul.
The NFL had every opportunity to contact both teams and say "you can't do that" or reject the contracts/deals that were made. But they didn't. They approved them and now later the other teams are crying fould cause they don't have as much money to spend and now they want the NFL to penalize both teams in order to make them competative with the Skins and Cowboys. You can't do that.
By the way, the CBA had expired. What they had basically was a gentlemans agreement if you'd call it that and the league approved the deals.
The uncapped year was contained in the prior CBA - essentially it was an agreement between the parties that, if the CBA was not renewed, the year after non-renewal would be uncapped. So, while the terms of the prior CBA expired, the owners and players agreement (in this case the agreement to blow up the salary cap) continued one year past that expiration of those terms.
FRPLG
03-13-2012, 01:28 AM
I think Tripp is right. The more I have thought about it the more the litigation route seems useless other than perhaps some type of temporary injunction.
The problem is this. The league can do whatever it wants internally to the degree that it doesn't impair the unionized players to lose money. Speaking legally. If they want to enact wonky salary cap rules that distributes cap space proportional to record they can do that as long as it doesn't hurt the players' earning power. That type of major move would certainly get the NFLPA up in arms and a protracted legal battle might ensue but the players wouldn't definitely win..they only might win. Additionally if they want to enact in-game rules to favor certain teams they can do that too. None of it has to be "fair" but it's their league..they make the rules (or, more accurately, make up the rules as they go). What the league has done is patently unfair in philosophical sense but not really so in any type of legally enforceable sense.
On one hand the league just came out a labor dispute in which they essentially argued that the NFL is one big company and not 32 individual teams working together in a collusive manner. Speaking from a business standpoint this makes total sense. On the other hand when it comes to on-field competitiveness the teams clearly are not one unit but separate in every way. Competing for cap-space is a direct on-field issue while competing for real business dollars is a business issue.
The salary cap bridges the two worlds. Business and on-field competitiveness
WilbursHomie
03-13-2012, 01:28 AM
I've always said the off season is the regular season for a Skins fan. So much media coverage and FA isn't even here yet. Touché Dan Snyder. Looking forward to the next few months until kick off and ESPN forgets we exist again. FML.
biffle
03-13-2012, 01:29 AM
No I haven't been following the news, what's going on?
Just because the NFL attempted to punish the Redskins for breaking an unwritten rule doesn't mean the punishment will stand up in court.
No it doesn't. And hopefully it won't.
But I was just making a joke because someone seemed to mock the idea of doing something about teams that were below the salary floor in 2010 because 'you can't just go back and apply rules retroactively' or whatever. Sorry the attempt at levity was apparently not up to your standards.