NFL taking away Redskins cap space

Where is the video of the pissed off Browns fan? That always cheers me up.

Eric Winston being cut cheers me up. But then I get angry again when I realize that we have barely any money to get him..

This could be a way for Snyder to get on the right side of the fans by going back at the league with both barrels. This is the one time we could all sign off and get behind the little bastard.

I think the Redskins and Cowboys have a real case.

Julius Peppers was signed by the Bears in 2010 with a "roster bonus" of $12.5 million that was counted IN IT'S ENTIRETY in 2010, it was not carried forward to 2011 where his caphit was $13 million which was $900k base + 1/6th of the $6.5 million signing bonus + $10.5 million roster bonus + easy incentives.

The $12.5 million is nowhere to be seen... it was dumped in 2010.

So where is the biggest "competitive advantage": Dumping Fat Albert or signing Julius Peppers?

I will feel about 20% less pissed off if they decide we still get the penalty, but the rest of the teams don't get the money. It was basically a bunch of cry-babying over a couple of teams who had the nuts to do something that might have been immoral, but not against the written rules. Then they all get together and say, "Well, if anything shouldn't WE get a piece of that pie?"

In addition to that, if the Skins were blindsided by this news, that means it's possible they weren't included in any talks or votes.

Again I thought Collusion had to do with say all the owners or all the players agreeing to do something. That something has to corner the market and bring them $$$. and whatever it is has to cause damage to someone.

Not all the owners did the same thing so it was not a group agreeing to do this. By doing this the two teams being punished (Skins and Cowboys) didn't corner the market since other teams had the availability to do the same. and who was damaged? The players received their money that was contracted to them. The Skins still gave the NFL a % of their total earnings.

To top it off there was no CBA. There were no rules other then Federal rules governing Unions if there was collusion then the Gov would be simply penalizing the two teams monitarily not the NFL. Also with out the Union how did the owners collude against the players? How can simply 2 owner collude against the 30 other owners? When there were no rules in place in regards to contracts because the CBA was disolved? Which means the CAP rules were not in place.

YES, and you would think with ALL THE GRANDSTANDING De Smith did during the lockout that he would at least have the guts to do something about this but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

They got paid off. They put a price tag on sanctioning the illegal activity the league entered into against them, and more than that, made sure that the only teams that didn't engage in it got punished for doing so.

It's going to be hard to ever be on the union's side again after this.

It would have been better served had the owners came together with the Skins and Cowboys and spoke with them and basically came to an agreement then in the future they were not going to allow that to happen again.

In other words its one thing if both teams knew what they were doing was wrong and against the rules and did it anyway and then yes you punish them monitarily, hit them in the pocket. But... when there is no rule against it, and the NFL fails to tell the teams they can't do that, and allows it to happen.... they should not be able to all of a sudden decide to punish monitarily for something that was not against the rules and come up with some fictitious money punishment. How about each team that did this pay a fine say $36 mill over 2 yrs but it does not effect their CAP money.

Is the issue here that the Redskins are being fined based on how far they were over an imaginary cap? This article says that we would have been $39 million over in 2010.

Okay so looks like I will eat some crow, original reports were correct but at least it can be spread out over 2 years. I am still amazed that this is happening whoever set the deals up in this manner (bruce Allen I am assuming) damn well better lose their job over this.

Anyone else think that we are going to back out of our deal with St Louis now?

Ok, DS should appeal and the NFL should hold off Free Agency until they can get this handled in a fair manner or until it can be decided legally. Otherwise hold off the punishment until it can be legally reviewed. The punishment could always be put on us later in which the team might have to cut players perhaps to get below the CAP say $15 mill over 2 yrs.