Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

^ He's a rookie. He'll throw 10. Hell he threw 10 interceptions THIS year.

Both Griffin and Luck are no longer facing NCAA defenses. They are ready to step into the NFL where defenses are much more advanced and where defensive players are much more elite. Both of them will have their fair share of INTs. If Luck threw only 10 at Stanford last year, then he'll toss at least 15 picks as a rookie this year. RG3 only threw six picks last year at Baylor. But look for that number to climb to 12 to 14 in his rookie season. Both of these quarterbacks did an excellent job of protecting the football on the collegiate level last year. But the NFL is not the collegiate level.

He's not your typical rookie, neither is Griffin who also has a low INT ratio.




True but for either of them to come in and throw 20TDs and lets say 6 Ints would be some magical stuff.

As talented as Luck is, he has no talent whatsoever around him...except maybe Reggie Wayne. The Colts have no running game, their o-line stinks, and so does their defense. It will be interesting to see what he is able to do with such a meh roster.

As talented as Luck is, he has no talent whatsoever around him...except maybe Reggie Wayne. The Colts have no running game, their o-line stinks, and so does their defense. It will be interesting to see what he is able to do with such a meh roster.

Sam has the same problem in stl so let's see if luck is really that much better

Sam has the same problem in stl so let's see if luck is really that much better

Yeah but at least Bradford had Stephen Jackson in St. Louis. Granted that he wasn't in his prime, but he is much better than any RB currently in the Colts roster. I'll be curious to see how Bradford does if he gets a #1 WR.

As talented as Luck is, he has no talent whatsoever around him...except maybe Reggie Wayne. The Colts have no running game, their o-line stinks, and so does their defense. It will be interesting to see what he is able to do with such a meh roster.

It sounds like Luck, if drafted by Indianapolis, will be in the same no win situation that Colt McCoy has been facing the past few years. It's a good thing that the Colts have a chance to rebuild their roster through the draft and take advantage of the fact that they can select a promising prospect early in every round of the draft. Maybe Luck can manage Sam Bradford's 7-9 rookie record.

My point was never that Griffin should be taken over Luck that was the point you were arguing against.
My argument is that its a legitimate question.

And taking a pot shot at Gil Brandt's credibility? Tisk, tisk.
The man has forgotten more about football then most scouts/GMs out there he's one of the more universally respected people in scouting.

Re: Dungy being a defensive coach
I think were above being argumentative?
But, Dungy having actually played college QB himself and coaching Peyton Manning and being a former DC that actually games plan against these QBs has to count more in his favor then against it.

I didn't take a shot at Brandt's credibility, I basically said if he had outright declared RG3 the number 1 QB prospect after a workout which took place the day before Luck's it would have undermined his credibility. But he didn't do that which leaves his credibility in tact.

As for Dungy, you got me, stupid defensive guy card.

As talented as Luck is, he has no talent whatsoever around him...except maybe Reggie Wayne. The Colts have no running game, their o-line stinks, and so does their defense. It will be interesting to see what he is able to do with such a meh roster.
I don't know about Luck have no talent whatsover.
They've got Wayne, Collie and Donald Brown.
Their pass protection is decent they gave up fewer sacks and Football Outsider rates them 18th in pass protection rating which is middle of the pack.
I agree that their OL doesn't run block very well but then again they also didn't run the ball very much.
I think their offense suffered greatly from having Curtis Painter under center for the bulk of the season.
Dan Orlovsky isn't anyone to write home about, but there offense looked much better with Dan under center then Painter.

As for Dungy, you got me, stupid defensive guy card.That Dungy doesn't know anything about QBs! ;)

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