Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

rg3 at #2, is that going to be a 4yr/$25M deal?

Suppose the unthinkable happens and Indy takes RG3 instead? Talk about the world turning upside down on that day.

Well then we could say we didnt actually suck for Luck but got Luck from pure luck.

I think it's easy to see things in the context of how the rest of the league operates and say that we gave up a lot. No other team has really put so many eggs in one basket like we have with this move. However I choose to look at this move in comparison to both our recent success and our recent drafts. Something had to be done and this is definitely something. Sure we're missing out on 2 first rounders and a 2nd rounder but at the same time plenty of teams miss on those picks regardless. If RGIII comes in and raises our level of success with multiple playoff runs and some division championships the move will be justified in my eyes even with out a Superbowl win. We've had numerous 1st rounders come in over the years and it's amounted to just about nothing so I'm okay with missing out on 2 first round picks in order to get a player like RGIII.

I really think we've been so starved for success that this was a necessary move in every way.

I have no major issues with the trade itself, outside of the fact that the Rams are clear winners and the Redskins are...well, they're on the side they always are. How can you say this with any certainty at this point? Just like with draft classes, this probably cannot be accurately judged for at least 3 years. What happens if the Rams picks in '12 are busts, we go on an incredible run and their pick in '13 is #28 and in '14 is #32 with RGIII as league rookie of the year in '12 and MVP in '13? Is it still a clear win for the Rams?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not predicting those things to happen but all of the 'we got screwed' crap is rather annoying. How about wait and see?

I agree that RG3 will have a better rookie season than Luck. Luck, right now, is set up to be awful in Indy. They took away all his weapons. Who is running the ball? Who is he throwing to? Who on the defense is going to make a play?

That alone makes RG3 better than Luck. Depending on what sports show you watch, a lot of analysts believe that the skins were a QB away from being a playoff team. RG3 is that perfect missing puzzle piece.

But yeah, wouldn't that be something if the Colts came out and said with the first pick the colts select robert griffin...I'd be happy with Luck but damn that'd be great either way. Its like saying who would you rather have Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers. Great situation we're in.

Even if Barkely would of came out this year we still would of needed to give up atleast one extra first to trade up because he wouldn't of made it to #6. Now they're saying Tannehill won't make it past # 4.

Casserly likes the trade, said he do the exact same thing. Nice!

I have no major issues with the trade itself, outside of the fact that the Rams are clear winners and the Redskins are...well, they're on the side they always are. But in the context of the last three years, it says a lot about a lot. And I don't feel like the bad guy for stating the obvious.

The trade itself can be easily justified by the player who they traded for being the player they expect him to be. The problem is with the expectations. I feel a LOT better about the trade since outside observers have weighed in basically supporting the fact that this move works, schematically. Clearly, it's not just Shanahan on an island here with the Shanaclan fans, it's a lot of people who analyze the league for a living who think that when it's all said and done, this will work.

In general though, you don't want to get caught making trades that you basically can't win, and your intention is that if everything goes as planned, you won't look foolish. Noting ever goes as planned for these guys, which leaves me with reservation. But it's tempered reservation because: a lot of people who aren't the Shanahan's like this move and think that it's only a matter of time before Griffin is the most popular guy in town.

You can change your sig now, I think it's a given that Sav Rocca is no longer our best offensive weapon. :D

Also I kinda agree with Paintrain, as with any draft trades, or any draft picks in general, I think a minimum 3 year waiting period before declaring a winner makes sense. As of now the odds are in the Rams favor, but a lot can change once players take the field.

I have no major issues with the trade itself, outside of the fact that the Rams are clear winners and the Redskins are...well, they're on the side they always are. But in the context of the last three years, it says a lot about a lot. And I don't feel like the bad guy for stating the obvious.

The trade itself can be easily justified by the player who they traded for being the player they expect him to be. The problem is with the expectations. I feel a LOT better about the trade since outside observers have weighed in basically supporting the fact that this move works, schematically. Clearly, it's not just Shanahan on an island here with the Shanaclan fans, it's a lot of people who analyze the league for a living who think that when it's all said and done, this will work.

In general though, you don't want to get caught making trades that you basically can't win, and your intention is that if everything goes as planned, you won't look foolish. Noting ever goes as planned for these guys, which leaves me with reservation. But it's tempered reservation because: a lot of people who aren't the Shanahan's like this move and think that it's only a matter of time before Griffin is the most popular guy in town.

How can you conclude who won or lost a trade the day after it happened? If Bradford ends up not being that great and RG3 is an all pro QB then the Rams should have kept the pick and drafted RG3 for themselves. There are many ways it can play out...i just dont see how you can declare the rams the clear winner of the trade today. If RG3 is a great player he's worth double what they gave up and then some. The bottom line is this trade will be judged based on RG3's career and that has not even started yet...

So.....#10......do we give him Jay Schroeders old number?