Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)

[QUOTE=rypper11;893829]NFL.com news: Report: Redskins already out on Peyton Manning chase (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82777dfb/article/report-redskins-already-out-on-peyton-manning-chase?module=HP11_headline_stack)
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Honestly what I've been thinking all along. Love to have him, but playing his brother twice a year and having them knock each other out on way to SuperBowl each year would definitely not be attractive for him. Miami's situation is hard to beat, agree that's his likely destination barring surprise team. Clearly need to wait and see.

If this falls through, I guess we still can throw the house at RG3. But this already is beginning to feel like the year where we tried to get Cutler - and failed, then tried for Sanchez - and failed, and then sucked with Campbell with a huge let-down all year.

I definitely can't take going through this again and then living with Rex all year long....

This they same info that was in another link, now its just coming from nfl.com.

the article saying we're out and the one saying, wait, no we're not have BOTH been posted about 40 times here.

we are in the running, but miami is the most likely destination.

Chris Russel's opinion went national even to be posted on NFL network, I bet you noone will ever listen to his opinion on anything or atleast post it nationally. Locals know that his information is flat out junk.

"We're not down on Colt McCoy, so I just want to make that clear," Heckert said. "We still think Colt's going to be a good player."


Meaning

"Yes we are going to try and get RG3"

My speculation is that the Browns would love RGIII at #4 and would pounce on him but aren't really interested in him at #2. They have to do their due diligence and talk to the Rams about him but it doesn't fit with Holmgren & Heckert's "upbringing" to sacrifice valuable draft picks (meaning 1st rounders) to move up.

Remember Heckert is from the Eagles front office, who were much more well know for trading down than trading up. Also remember last year they were in prime position to get an impact player (Julio Jones) that had been projected to them but they took the deal to move down and accumulate picks.

It may be my homerism speaking but I don't see them, with as many holes as they have, packaging those 2 picks for 1. Holmgren is more about building a team that can win than a particular player and they are multiple players away. QB isn't their biggest need and with 4 & 22 they can fill RB and WR for years to come. I also think they are going to be the front runners for Flynn when (yes, I'm calling it now even before polls close) Manning signs with Miami. However they can't just come out and say right now, we're happy where we are just in case the Rams decide to drop the price to something they can justify.

Solid post Pain

NFL.com news: Peyton Manning stock watch: Who's the favorite right now? (http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story/09000d5d8277880b/article/peyton-manning-stock-watch-whos-the-favorite-right-now?module=HP11_hot_topics)

NFL.com news: Peyton Manning stock watch: Who's the favorite right now? (http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story/09000d5d8277880b/article/peyton-manning-stock-watch-whos-the-favorite-right-now?module=HP11_hot_topics)i like the second con for seattle, very insightful

Despite being repeated shouted down, some people have posted their opinion that the Browns by the very nature of Holmgren's philosophy on QBs would not consider trading up.

I still believe that there's a very real chance that the FO and staff (not the media) believe that while Colt McCoy is not yet a 'franchise' QB that he could become. Hence the Browns voicing their desire to bring in competition as opposed to bringing in a replacement .
If the Browns wanted to replace McCoy they would have no need to hide it.
They're picking at 4; there is very little anyone can do to outbid them if they wanted a QB.

If I'm in the FO I don't bead around the bush.
I offer the Browns a trade down deal to guage their interest in Griffin and proceed from there.

BTW-I can't imagine the Browns FO considers Matt Flynn an upgrade from Colt McCoy. From a physical skillset perspective they're essentially the same QB.
Flynn may have slightly more velocity and McCoy is more athletic/playmaker.
I can't picture Holmgren falling for the same late rounnd QB pump and dump scheme that he practically created.

Despite being repeated shouted down, some people have posted their opinion that the Browns by the very nature of Holmgren's philosophy on QBs would not consider trading up.

I still believe that there's a very real chance that the FO and staff (not the media) believe that while Colt McCoy is not yet a 'franchise' QB that he could become. Hence the Browns voicing their desire to bring in competition as opposed to bringing in a replacement .
If the Browns wanted to replace McCoy they would have no need to hide it.
They're picking at 4; there is very little anyone can do to outbid them if they wanted a QB.

If I'm in the FO I don't bead around the bush.
I offer the Browns a trade down deal to guage their interest in Griffin and proceed from there.

BTW-I can't imagine the Browns FO considers Matt Flynn an upgrade from Colt McCoy. From a physical skillset perspective they're essentially the same QB.
Flynn may have slightly more velocity and McCoy is more athletic/playmaker.
I can't picture Holmgren falling for the same late rounnd QB pump and dump scheme that he practically created.

You almost contradict yourself in this.

First you say that the browns want someone to compete with Colt, not replace. Then you say that Flynn is too similar to Colt.

I think that is exactly what they are looking for - Someone that can come in, battle it out and then start the best QB with a solid backup.

This thread is epic for article reposts. No one reads back any more. :(

I still do...but that's gotten a bit harder too :(