What is this about Manning having great skill players around him all his life? Were Garcon, Collie, Gonzalez, Clark really that skilled or did Manning make them so?
Well, Wayne was certainly legit, and so was Harrison, and I think Dallas Clark was too.
Garcon played pretty well without him.
But other than that, I think he mostly made his receivers what they were.
skinsfaninok
03-07-2012, 11:06 AM
booooooooooooonell...man yall were lucky i wasnt on this board when he was QBing.
Lol Oh now
skinsfaninok
03-07-2012, 11:07 AM
What is this about Manning having great skill players around him all his life? Were Garcon, Collie, Gonzalez, Clark really that skilled or did Manning make them so?
Manning made Wayne and Harrison too
Manning made Wayne and Harrison too
I really don't agree. Both of those guys were legit, they would have been top WRs on any other team.
donofriose
03-07-2012, 11:18 AM
Why don't we copy what the Packers do, what the Patriots do, what the Giants do, what the Ravens do, what the Colts did.
All these teams build their teams through the draft. Saints were the only team that got lucky that a good quarterback become a free agent when he was still young and a lot of years left. The Packers had the best offense last year and their entire offense was drafted. The best part of the Giants was their defensive line and their receivers... drafted.
We need to rebuild similar to how the Lions rebuilt their team. Best three lions players? Suh, Johnson, and most would say Stafford and all three drafted.
You want to sign manning then fine, be prepared to be the Vikings in 2 or 3 years, just like when they signed Favre. The best teams build through the draft and smart FA moves, not big ones that the media goes crazy for.
Manning could and might get us to the playoffs, nothing more. I would rather wait a couple of years and have a team that is always in contention for a playoff spot like all the teams listed. Also a big reason why Manning was successful was the management at the time knew how to build a team through the draft, they gave him great weapons, and you didn't hear the colts going after big name free agents.
But we will be back to old usual redskins if we sign him, champions of the offseason last, and last place in the division
skinsfaninok
03-07-2012, 11:19 AM
Wonder if Houston makes a play?
donofriose
03-07-2012, 11:21 AM
Manning made Wayne and Harrison too
Harrison was good without manning his first two years. Wayne was a beast at Miami and he still had a good year this year with awful quarterbacks throwing him the ball. Manning didn't play with scrubs.
skinsfaninok
03-07-2012, 11:24 AM
Manning had more help overall than Brady I've always said that, but without manning, Wayne and Harrison would have just been good not great IMO
SmootSmack
03-07-2012, 11:24 AM
Big name FAs are on the market every year, but very rarely is there ever one as big as Manning. We don't have RG3 locked up, contrary to belief. Right now our QBs are Beck and Grossman and really it's only Beck because Grossman is a FA...so I don't see how you can't at least consider Manning
Dirtbag59
03-07-2012, 11:26 AM
Big name FAs are on the market every year, but very rarely is there ever one as big as Manning. We don't have RG3 locked up, contrary to belief. Right now our QBs are Beck and Grossman and really it's only Beck because Grossman is a FA...so I don't see how you can't at least consider Manning
Fair enough. However from what I'm seeing right now, the ideal scenario of Miami getting Manning and Cleveland getting Flynn has a decent chance of playing out. At that point the price of that 2nd pick drops significantly.
Wonder if Houston makes a play?
Ultimate Texans » Here’s why there’s no chance Peyton Manning will play for the Texans (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/02/heres-why-theres-no-chance-peyton-manning-will-play-for-the-texans/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)