Peyton Manning videotaped making 35+ yard throws at Duke University

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mbedner3420
03-04-2012, 05:06 PM
Most of the post here I try to put IMO (In My Opinion), I try not to be a person to force my ideas on to everyone.

it's a good thing you spelled that out for us... The Internet is a strange and foreign place to everyone on this blog lol

Hog1
03-04-2012, 05:10 PM
A Bigfoot siteing has better quality vid.........

Lotus
03-04-2012, 05:11 PM
those were the best throws of the edited clips? i'm not dazzled. i'm still a doubter, a negative nancy

I'm a bit with you. That video doesn't do much for me.

But I'm not negative. Friday morning the world may learn that Manning is in excellent health.

GTripp0012
03-04-2012, 05:25 PM
The reason the texans didn't get to the playoffs was the defense, not the offense. Kyle had no control over that.In the case of the 2009 Texans (Kyle's final year there), the defense deserves only little blame for that. The Texans only needed one more win, and it's not like they blew a bunch of late leads a la the 2009 Redskins, they had the ball late in a bunch of their losses.

In 2010, (after Kyle took the same position with Washington), sure, that was one of the worst defensive units in NFL history, and the offense featured a well-rounded Arian Foster-led attack that probably deserved better in 2011.

The important thing for the Texans is that in 2011 they got it right: they kept the offensive gains in 2010 (well, at least they did until injury struck), and fixed an underachieving defense by making it less reliant on stars like Mario Williams and Demeco Ryans, and more of a team oriented attack.

SmootSmack
03-04-2012, 05:27 PM
It's good to see Peyton Manning throw the football with some pop. As for Peyton becoming a west coast offense quarterback, I don't agree with that. Mike Shanahan, if he signs Manning, should incorporate the types of plays that Manning ran in Indy and tweak the offense to what Peyton Manning does. Period. If not, disaster will strike and so will conflict which is the reason why Peyton Manning shouldn't be a Redskin.

The Kyle Shanahan offense is a lot more vertical than it seems to be given credit for. It's not really a "sideline to sideline" west coast offense

Mechanix544
03-04-2012, 05:45 PM
IMO, Peyton is going to have a huge chip on his shoulder. IMO, I hope he is playing for us, rather than playing against us the remainder of his career, because, IMO, he will be on a frikkin mission. IMO.

GTripp0012
03-04-2012, 05:46 PM
The Kyle Shanahan offense is a lot more vertical than it seems to be given credit for. It's not really a "sideline to sideline" west coast offenseTruth.

Kyle uses the bunch formation a lot, which is an old WCO trick, but outside of the steady diet of Shanahan bootlegs (which seem more like an odd bastadization of the Mike Shanahan playbook than an offensive staple), and those bunch formations, Kyle's offense is much closer to an old school Al Davis offense built off of deep drops and lots play action and max protection.

There just isn't much of a west coast element in the Redskins offense.

And I'd add one observation I made in re-watching the 2009 and 2011 seasons over the last two weeks: the Redskins are far more likely to use running plays which you would call man to man blocking schemes under Kyle Shanahan than they were under Jim Zorn/Sherm Smith/Sherm Lewis.

Defensewins
03-04-2012, 06:05 PM
The reason the texans didn't get to the playoffs was the defense, not the offense. Kyle had no control over that.

The Texans had a great offense when KS was there and even better offense since he left because of the great players there. Not because KS re-invented the wheel or taught the Texans players how to play. KS is a good coordinator. let's not give him more credit than he deserves just yet. The head coach of the Texans was a respected offensive coordinator as well.
Peyton Manning is a future Hall of Fame QB. KS hopes to make it.
Peyton Manning > KS.

Defensewins
03-04-2012, 06:21 PM
It's good to see Peyton Manning throw the football with some pop. As for Peyton becoming a west coast offense quarterback, I don't agree with that. Mike Shanahan, if he signs Manning, should incorporate the types of plays that Manning ran in Indy and tweak the offense to what Peyton Manning does. Period. If not, disaster will strike and so will conflict which is the reason why Peyton Manning shouldn't be a Redskin.

I agree that if PManning comes here we have to modify our offense. Otherwise PManning will get injured running naked bootlegs and roll outs. It is his weakness.
I disagree with you that we should not sign him because we should not modify our offense. Great teams do it from time to time with great success. Are we so arrogant and inflexible to not change for the betterment of the team? The goal is to win and win a Superbowl....right? Or is our goal to play MS system win or lose? Square peg...round hole. Ego's need to be checked at the door.

skinsfan69
03-04-2012, 07:14 PM
Truth.

Kyle uses the bunch formation a lot, which is an old WCO trick, but outside of the steady diet of Shanahan bootlegs (which seem more like an odd bastadization of the Mike Shanahan playbook than an offensive staple), and those bunch formations, Kyle's offense is much closer to an old school Al Davis offense built off of deep drops and lots play action and max protection.

There just isn't much of a west coast element in the Redskins offense.

And I'd add one observation I made in re-watching the 2009 and 2011 seasons over the last two weeks: the Redskins are far more likely to use running plays which you would call man to man blocking schemes under Kyle Shanahan than they were under Jim Zorn/Sherm Smith/Sherm Lewis.

Actually do you know who invented the bunch sets? Gibbs 1 with The Posse.

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