Around the NFL: 2012 Off-Season-Free Agency/Trades

I'm just wondering, why doesn't every team with a high profile free agent that isn't using the franchise tag just tag and trade their players that they're not looking to retain? Mario Williams, Matt Flynn, Terell Thomas, and Levi Brown (maybe, not entirely sure how good he is) come to mind. I'm more talking about williams and flynn considering I'm not entirely sure how much would be gotten for brown or thomas and what their FA plan is (I say this because they can get compensatory picks equal to trade value if they do not sign other FAs). But I would be absolutely shocked if Williams or Flynn didn't get at least a 2nd rounder if put on the trading block, which is significantly better than an after the 3rd round pick from compensation.

Why would a team trade a draft pick for a player about to become a free agent?

Also, since last season's trading deadline has passed, I don't think you can trade a player at this point. You would have to wait till the start of the new league year, and at that point the FA's by definition are no longer under contract and the old team has no rights to trade.

Completely unrelated to my previous post, but I had an idea that I think is smart and I'm not sure why it isn't done more. Mike Wallace's tender is a 1st rounder. Whats to stop a team picking in the middle of the 1st round from making a series of pre-draft trades to get down as low as possible. The bears for example are in desperate need of a WR. They have the 19th pick, which is 285 pts higher than the last 1st round pick on the value chart. 285 pts is the equivalent of a late second rounder. I'd have to imagine that if nobody really wanted to trade up, somebody would see the value and give up at least a 3rd rounder. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think teams that want mike wallace should be limited to the teams picking at the end of the first round.

Completely unrelated to my previous post, but I had an idea that I think is smart and I'm not sure why it isn't done more. Mike Wallace's tender is a 1st rounder. Whats to stop a team picking in the middle of the 1st round from making a series of pre-draft trades to get down as low as possible. The bears for example are in desperate need of a WR. They have the 19th pick, which is 285 pts higher than the last 1st round pick on the value chart. 285 pts is the equivalent of a late second rounder. I'd have to imagine that if nobody really wanted to trade up, somebody would see the value and give up at least a 3rd rounder. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think teams that want mike wallace should be limited to the teams picking at the end of the first round.

I'm really confused by this post. Dumb it down for me please

Why would a team trade a draft pick for a player about to become a free agent?

Also, since last season's trading deadline has passed, I don't think you can trade a player at this point. You would have to wait till the start of the new league year, and at that point the FA's by definition are no longer under contract and the old team has no rights to trade.

Well because he's no longer a free agent when you tag him. The patriots did this with Cassel, so I'm sure it can be done.

Well because he's no longer a free agent when you tag him. The patriots did this with Cassel, so I'm sure it can be done.

I am sure there was a conversation about this before, I thought under the new CBA this was not allowed or at the least discouraged. But then again, that's what the Eagles are doing with DJax.

I'm really confused by this post. Dumb it down for me please

Mike Wallace is tendered at a 1st rounder, which means that it doesn't matter if you own 1st pick or the 32nd pick, a 1st rounder will get you mike wallace. If a team wants mike wallace, why don't they first trade down as much as possible while still remaining in the 1st round before they sign him?

Example. Lets say the Bears want Wallace. They have the 19th pick. Instead of giving up the the 19th pick to get wallace, first trade as far down as possible in the 1st round to pick up some extra picks, and then trade your new first round pick for mike wallace. Lets say the giants are willing to give up their 3rd and 5th picks to trade up from 32 to 19. The Bears would give the 32nd to the steelers, get mike wallace and get a 3rd and a 5th. Instead of just getting mike wallace, they get the extra 3rd and 5th.

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I am sure there was a conversation about this before, I thought under the new CBA this was not allowed or at the least discouraged. But then again, that's what the Eagles are doing with DJax.

Are they? Didn't know that. I'd be shocked if trades weren't allowed now. But maybe tagged/tendered players cant be traded for less than they are tagged for? If that were the case I wonder if that rule would still apply if the tagged contract went unsigned?

Mike Wallace is tendered at a 1st rounder, which means that it doesn't matter if you own 1st pick or the 32nd pick, a 1st rounder will get you mike wallace. If a team wants mike wallace, why don't they first trade down as much as possible while still remaining in the 1st round before they sign him?

Example. Lets say the Bears want Wallace. They have the 19th pick. Instead of giving up the the 19th pick to get wallace, first trade as far down as possible in the 1st round to pick up some extra picks, and then trade your new first round pick for mike wallace. Lets say the giants are willing to give up their 3rd and 5th picks to trade up from 32 to 19. The Bears would give the 32nd to the steelers, get mike wallace and get a 3rd and a 5th. Instead of just getting mike wallace, they get the extra 3rd and 5th.

Well, first I think you're assuming it's quite easier than it is to trade. Secondly, and I'm not sure if this rule still applies, but I'm pretty sure you can only trade the pick you were assigned in the draft. So if you don't have a pick you can't go get one and you can't go get another pick and trade it.

i'd trade it all for a little more