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I don't know. We're 5-11 and not going to the playoffs next year. My point is I want a guy that's going to be here for several more years. If we're going to win 4-6 games, I want to do it as young as possible.
So theoretically, we will fix the QB position...improve the the outlook for some Offensive skill positions and reinforce the D...and get JJ back.
AND you don't think we'll really improve?
Interesting.........
Getting rid of Fletcher for any kind of reasonable number totally smacks of a Pre-Shanahan move......
The Goat 03-02-2012, 01:28 AM HELL YES!!! If the Skins had someone on the team now who could lead the entire NFL in tackles he would be playing all ready, add in his leadrship and knowledge of the D and the game it's self....just show him the damn money!
It's a sad day when a Giants fan gets what (about) half of Skins fans don't...
REDSKINS4ever 03-02-2012, 03:01 AM You're telling me that replacing Fletch with the likes of Lorenzo, Keyaron Fox and two players that arent even close to being ILB's wouldn't leave us weaker? There was a reason Bart Scotts role was reduced last year btw.
Lorenzo Alexander has excelled at every position he's played for the Redskins during his entire tenure. He already said that he could play the inside position. Bart Scott has been successful playing ILB for years for the Ravens and Jets. The only reason he was benched was because his mouth got him into trouble. Rob Jackson, because he's still young with potential and upside, could surely fit into the inside because of his instincts and athleticism.
Giantone 03-02-2012, 04:27 AM The only reason he was benched was because his mouth got him into trouble. .
In Fletchers whole time in the NFL has this ever happen to him, NO ....and why is that?
Swarley 03-02-2012, 04:51 AM Lorenzo Alexander has excelled at every position he's played for the Redskins during his entire tenure. He already said that he could play the inside position. Bart Scott has been successful playing ILB for years for the Ravens and Jets. The only reason he was benched was because his mouth got him into trouble. Rob Jackson, because he's still young with potential and upside, could surely fit into the inside because of his instincts and athleticism.
Well if Lorenzo himself said it then surely he could match the production of London Fletcher... As for Rob Jackson while he could eventually make a good OLB he doesn't have what it takes to play inside and I don't know where you're getting that idea from. His instincts last year lead him to lose sight of the ball on more than one occasion, but sure let's have him replace the anchor of our defense.
GridIron26 03-02-2012, 07:54 AM I'd try and find a guy in the draft that can step in and start alongside Riley for the next several years.
Let's suppose we traded up to draft Griffin, and we are left with only 2nd round, 5th, 6th, and 7th picks. Are you suggesting that we use 2nd round pick to draft a LB to replace Fletcher? Since not many teams would expect a player from 4th round or less to start on first game. If so, then what about WR, RT, FS, and CB? However if we expect to stay at #6 or trade down, then we maybe could use 2nd or 3rd pick to draft the replacement, but I think we would be taking a big gamble. Look at Eagles and their LB situation last year, they took Casey Matthews in 4th round with the expectation of starting him - look at how it worked out for them.
That is my point - we are not in a situation where we have the luxury to let Fletcher walk and expect to find someone to replace him.
REDSKINS4ever 03-02-2012, 10:16 AM Well if Lorenzo himself said it then surely he could match the production of London Fletcher... As for Rob Jackson while he could eventually make a good OLB he doesn't have what it takes to play inside and I don't know where you're getting that idea from. His instincts last year lead him to lose sight of the ball on more than one occasion, but sure let's have him replace the anchor of our defense.
Whether or not Alexander can match Fletcher's productivity would remain to be seen. Not all NFL inside linebackers playing in the 3-4 defense matched Fletcher's productivity or made more tackles than Fletcher did in 2011. But that doesn't mean Alexander couldn't man the position. But if the Redskins don't end up signing Fletcher before March 13th, then what? He'll be a free agent and could possibly sign with another team. Then the Redskins would have to either draft someone to replace him, make a trade, or sign another free agent to take London's place in the middle. As far as Rob Jackson, he really hasn't played enough downs to properly evaluate him. He played well against the Jaguars in 2010.
skinsfan69 03-02-2012, 12:18 PM Let's suppose we traded up to draft Griffin, and we are left with only 2nd round, 5th, 6th, and 7th picks. Are you suggesting that we use 2nd round pick to draft a LB to replace Fletcher? Since not many teams would expect a player from 4th round or less to start on first game. If so, then what about WR, RT, FS, and CB? However if we expect to stay at #6 or trade down, then we maybe could use 2nd or 3rd pick to draft the replacement, but I think we would be taking a big gamble. Look at Eagles and their LB situation last year, they took Casey Matthews in 4th round with the expectation of starting him - look at how it worked out for them.
That is my point - we are not in a situation where we have the luxury to let Fletcher walk and expect to find someone to replace him.
This team is simply not in a position to throw away 3 high draft picks to draft someone that may or may not become a great player. That's one of the reasons we're not a good team cause we've been too carless with draft picks. Keep the picks and keep building your team so you can sustain success.
skinsfan69 03-02-2012, 12:28 PM our 5-11 record doesn't say anything about London Fletcher so I'm not sure what that proves. The point is, you can still bring in a young guy and keep a great player. It doesnt have to be one or the other.
We don't have cap issues, we don't have a young LB on the team that needs the playing time, furthermore we don't have a young LB on the team that deserves the playing time. Even if you bring in player in the draft whats the likelihood that we dont skip a beat by letting Fletch walk.
I just don't understand the reasoning.
The reasoning is I'd rather turn over the roster and get young guys on the field at every position, or most positions. This is a REBUILD! I personally think Shanahan is afraid to play young guys. Example..Why didn't they just put Riley in there instead of wasting time with Rocky? Rocky's NOT a fit for the 3-4 yet they still put him in there. Why? I want Fletcher back. I'm just saying he's not A MUST SIGN. The sky isn't going to fall if we don't sign him. Remember, we're 5-11 and couldn't stop Joe Webb and Toby Gerhart. I'd rather get rid of a guy a year early than a year too late.
GridIron26 03-02-2012, 01:06 PM This team is simply not in a position to throw away 3 high draft picks to draft someone that may or may not become a great player. That's one of the reasons we're not a good team cause we've been too carless with draft picks. Keep the picks and keep building your team so you can sustain success.
I totally agree with not trading up, I would prefer for us to stay pat and draft Tannehill. But then there are so many rumors claiming the fact that Redskins is looking to trade up to draft Griffin. You are still missing my point, regardless of what we do in draft, we still do not have enough picks to draft a replacement for Fletcher that we can expect to contribute immediately. We have several needs to fill in, such as QB, WR, FS, RT, CB, and maybe SS if we don't resign Landry. By letting Fletcher walk away, we would only add another position that we will need to fill in.
The only scenario where I can see us drafting a LB in draft who we can expect to replace Fletcher next season is if we trade down and gain another 2nd or 3rd round pick. I am not sure if that will happen since Tannehill will be gone in top 15, unless we want Weeden.
My ideal plan for ILB situation would be to resign Fletcher and draft a replacement next year.
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