Surtain: Given permission to seek trade

I definitely agree there are better CBs, but the cost to bring them here is what we are trying to avoid. Smoot definitely doesn't deserve top CB money, and if he won't accept the deal the Redskins are trying to give him, I don't think another team will want to pay him that cash either, especially with Surtain on the market.

Smoot has improved but I dont think he is a top corner. He makes a lot of mental mistakes still. Surtain is a great corner and is better. Smoot is a 'core guy' but part of what gibbs wants in a core guy is that he doesnt ask to be overpaid, and makes sacrifices to play on our team. Its hard for us to not overpay since as someone pointed out, we arent exactly competing as of late. but Gibbs is trying to change that.

As I said before, I wish someone would just suck it up and do something about it, Smoot more than the Redskins. If the Redskins bow to his demands then any other Joe Schmoe on the team that is overarchieving will ask to be paid more than their value.

OK, just to interject some sense into the Surtain talk...

There is NO WAY the Dolphins would take Gardner for Surtain... even if you threw in a 4th round pick. It would take Gardner and our NUMBER 1 PICK... or a franchise and trade of Smoot (a la Chump Bailey) AND Gardner to the even ENTICE the Dolphins into giving up Surtain.


Surtain is DEFINITELY worth a look for us. If Smoot is demanding the same salary as Surtain... you HAVE to go Surtain. He is bigger, plays tougher, and has the most (BY FAR) INTs in the NFL the past 3 years.


Personally, I'd TRY to do it. If nothing else, it could drive the asking price for Gardner for teams like the Bucs who are interested.

Hmmm... what about packaging Gardner and Smoot together if that kind of situation arose?

Smoot has improved but I dont think he is a top corner. He makes a lot of mental mistakes still. Surtain is a great corner and is better. Smoot is a 'core guy' but part of what gibbs wants in a core guy is that he doesnt ask to be overpaid, and makes sacrifices to play on our team. Its hard for us to not overpay since as someone pointed out, we arent exactly competing as of late. but Gibbs is trying to change that.

Don't all players essentially ask to be overpaid and then hope that the final deal is at their market worth. If you think you're worth $12 million for example, chances are you're going to start off by asking for $14 million. It doesn't seem like Surtain is making sacrifices to be on the Dolphins so in that sense he's no more/less of a "core guy" than Smoot is to the Redskins right now

the dolphins cant afford him, they are 16 million over the cap as it is already.

no Surtain, he's not an answer he's to old, and to expensive

28 is too old? How old is Smoot, 26...27...?

for the amount that he'll ask for and the compensation that Miami will want, I'd rather go after someone younger like phil buccanon of oakland