Surtain: Given permission to seek trade

The money we'd be paying Surtain would be probabaly more than Smoot would ask honestly.


So you have to ask yourself the same question the Skins front office is asking.... "Is Smoot worth the money he's asking for?"

I think he's worth it, but with the signing bonus he's asking he's putting the Skin's future cap in total shams.

I honestly would not pay him anything over what the Skins offered. In turn I would probably draft a CB with the 3rd rd pick & look to start Harris. Greg Williams has the scheme the Skin's D needs to be effective w/o paying a tremendous amount of $$$CASH$$$

Plus Sean "Hitman" Taylor will be better seasoned to play a much larger roll in the Skins D. I would have to think that shifting him over to the strong side or on the side where the other teams #1 WR is discourages a QB to try & thread the needle. Regardless, if Smoot or Harris are lined up.

I don't know if paying more for a more experienced CB is an option. I think that's the problem with what Smoot is asking. I don't know how negotiations work, but if Surtain was interested in playing for the Skins, they maybe they could be like "Look Smoot, this is what Surtain is willing to take." Then again, someone said something about Snyder paying handsomely, so that might not be an option.

Why would we ever sign Surtain, who's going to cost a ton of money, when we could sign a younger guy who's loved by the city (Smoot)? We're not going to sign/trade for this guy.

We have to overpay everyone to come here because everyone wants to go to a Super Bowl contender and few in the league see us as a playoff contender.

We have to overpay everyone to come here because everyone wants to go to a Super Bowl contender and few in the league see us as a playoff contender.

Right on. Gibbs is trying to reestablish team chemistry with REAL REDSKINS, of which I believe Smoot is one. The last thing we need to do is bring in more hired guns. Pay fair market value for Smoot, just don't mortgage the future for one player.

Why would we ever sign Surtain, who's going to cost a ton of money, when we could sign a younger guy who's loved by the city (Smoot)? We're not going to sign/trade for this guy.

We have to overpay everyone to come here because everyone wants to go to a Super Bowl contender and few in the league see us as a playoff contender.

I completely agree. I'm just saying that the Redskins could use comparative offers to see if Smoot wants to be the team player he says he is. I want him to come back so bad, and nothing would upset me more than to see him on another team, BUT both sides need to meet in the middle. I think the Redskins should lower to 12 mil and he should just deal with the fact he won't get 14 mil.

everyoen agrees to pay smoot fair market value, except smoot. thats where the problem lies

So many times on this board, people were quick to point out things about our corner backs getting burned because we don't, and didn't have a pass rush for some time(this is mainly in regard to Champ getting toasted on occassion). Now look at the Dolphins. They are, and have been a pretty damn good defense with a lot of studs all over defense. Does Surtain look as good as he did in Miami as he would with a team where he is left out there all day. I just think the talent level in football is so close, that a solid group of players makes a lot of the guys look like probowlers(Eagles for one, these guys do nothing on other teams when they leave). In other words, lets try to keep what we have, and stop paying too much for a couple guys and find we can't keep our CORE guys.

Yup, I just wish both sides could find some kind of middle ground. Anyone know who Smoot's agent is?

Why would we ever sign Surtain, who's going to cost a ton of money, when we could sign a younger guy who's loved by the city (Smoot)? We're not going to sign/trade for this guy....

For two reasons:

1) Surtain is better than Smoot

2) Smoot is asking for top $. Smoot is not deserving of top CB money, Surtain is.

I agree Surtain would be a luxory we probably do not need, given our other needs. But I am against giving Smoot top 5 CB money. You guys may really love him, but there are other great CB's.

For two reasons:

1) Surtain is better than Smoot

2) Smoot is asking for top $. Smoot is not deserving of top CB money, Surtain is.

I agree Surtain would be a luxory we probably do not need, given our other needs. But I am against giving Smoot top 5 CB money. You guys may really love him, but there are other great CB's.

agreed, agreed, agreed