Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

Anyone else think it's wierd that the "Video Spotlight" on the Redskins.com homepage is RGIIIs presser? The one where he talks about playing for the Skins or Browns? Pretty unusual that they would put a clip up like that...and open it/close it with the "Redskins Nation" animation. And no intro/outro from Larry or anything. Perhaps I drank a bit too much kool-aid over the past day plus. Who knows what the Skins are up to.

IIRC a lot of the actual news and content on Redskins.com is provided by Comcast so it's not like the team is going out of its way to put it on there rather they're not stepping in and saying "hey we don't want this on here" which is probably how it is with 99% of the stuff posted there.

My question is: Do Tannehill or Weeden have enough talent to be an option instead of trading all those picks? Are either that far behind RGIII in talent that they are not an option?

I 100% believe so. Which is why I'm against throwing all those picks to get him when there is a possibility 7-8 picks could be turned into 12-16 picks that would help this team with its on going rebuild. With a good OL we would not have a need for a QB who has to run for his life or fails to go through his progressions because he gets impatient and runs.

OK lets say we give this years 1,2,3 and next years first.
Does the Warpath meltdown as a whole or rejoice?

Melt down. Doom and gloom.

Yes. Take a moment to look at Griffin.

- Olympic level athlete
- Elite Arm Strength
- Downfield accuracy
- High IQ (likely over 140)
- High character
- Led Baylor....BAYLOR to a 9-3 season including wins over Oklahoma and Texas.
- 4 year starter...err 3.15 year starter.

Tannehill and Weeden, who ironically beat Baylor, have some of those characteristics but not all of them. Virtually anything they can do RGIII can do and he'll likely do it better.

Um- Weeden has all that except the running/ evasiveness.
Strong arm
Able to make all the throws
Accuracy
Great with the fade and out route
Smart
Mature
Already gets along with the coaching staff
Has great throwing motion unlike RGIII with his 3/4 motion.
Can read defenses
Shows patience and mobility in the pocket
Works through his progressions
Does not lock on to any one WR

I agree completely. Theres a reason a team will be able to get Tannehill much later than RG3. I dont want to settle on him, he would have to sit and develop im really hoping we pull the trigger and to move up to get RG3

This is completely like last year, we had 2 WR's who stood out and the ones you mention we're the second tier level QB's. This yr we have 2 who have stood out and Tannehill, Cousins, and Weeden all being similar.

I know of at least one person who has Weeden rated above RG3 as a player. I am not that person.

No, you have it wrong. It's dishonest and unproductive to make the comparison between Tannehill and Luck/Griffin. Physically, it's not close. Tannehill is a good athlete for a quarterback. He can make plays with his legs, and can outrun some linebackers.PBPlhWcNaTo
But Luck and Griffin are two of the better athletes at the position that have come out in years.Just last year you have Newton, Locker, Kaepernick, Tyrod Taylor and Josh Portis all great athletes and you kinda have to throw Terrelle Pryor in there too.

Mayock and other people like to pull out Luck's one handed catch on a wide open QB throwback pass as evidence of his athleticism.
It seems silly to profess that the guy that lead his team in receiving for 2 years (2008 and 2009) isn't at least equally as athletic.

If you wanna say that Griffin is in another class then sure I can understand that, he's a near Olympic caliber athlete.
But its beyond me how anyone can deny that Tannehill, who was the both the best WR and the best QB on the Aggies, doesn't at least have an equal level (if not is flat out superior) of athleticism then Luck.
To me, and I could be way off base, but your opinions of Tannehill kinda smacks of someone that really hasn't watched very much of Tannehill at all really.

However, I don't think the limitations Tannehill has shown within pocket shouldn't just be shrugged off.Don't worry about shrugging them off because you're probably the only one that thinks he has them, especially in comparison to Foles and Cousins.

I think Tannehill throws the ball to some area of the field really well, and not as well to others.This is a generic criticism that could be levied against any QB prospect.

The irony is that I'm not even a Tannehill 'guy' , at first I begrudgingly watched him after he took the top spot from Jerrod Johnson.

He just doesn't though. Luck routinely breaks off runs that have him outrunning college corners. Tannehill has his fair share of breakaway TD runs as well, but we're not talking about two guys in the same class.

Luck is going to be a great threat with his legs in the pros regardless of system. Tannehill is more than capable of running the ball within the context of the system, with designed boots and rollouts and draws and such, but he's not Andrew Luck or Cam Newton or Robert Griffin physically. He's just not the same guy.

I think a better comp, athletically, would be Stafford.

The best part about the NFL you really don't need to spend all this draft picks and you really don't need those types of QB's to get to and or win the SB. Curt Warner was no Luck, RGIII, or Cam Newton. Eli is a slow runner and Big Ben can't run to save his life. Drew Breese is borderline he sucked in San Diego which is why they got rid of him. And then ther is Andy Dalton. I guess this year we will get to see if he is good or an anomaly.

Folks you don't need an RGIII to win the SB just a half decent OL to protect him, a QB who can make all the throws, and some decent WR's who can catch a ball which we don't have other then Moss and Gaffney.

The best part about the NFL you really don't need to spend all this draft picks and you really don't need those types of QB's to get to and or win the SB. Curt Warner was no Luck, RGIII, or Cam Newton. Eli is a slow runner and Big Ben can't run to save his life. Drew Breese is borderline he sucked in San Diego which is why they got rid of him. And then ther is Andy Dalton. I guess this year we will get to see if he is good or an anomaly.

Folks you don't need an RGIII to win the SB just a half decent OL to protect him, a QB who can make all the throws, and some decent WR's who can catch a ball which we don't have other then Moss and Gaffney.

And let's not forget Tom Brady the 6th rounder.

Um- Weeden has all that except the running/ evasiveness.
Strong arm
Able to make all the throws
Accuracy
Great with the fade and out route
Smart
Mature
Already gets along with the coaching staff
Has great throwing motion unlike RGIII with his 3/4 motion.
Can read defenses
Shows patience and mobility in the pocket
Works through his progressions
Does not lock on to any one WR

I never said Weeden doesn't have those traits. I'm saying that not only does Griffin have them, but in his case they're even more potent.

And don't discount the mobility. The best part about Griffin is that top tier-elite mobility and the threat of him off the bootleg thereby opening up the cutback lanes for our backs. That threat is invaluable in this offense to the point where we could easily be the number 1 running team next year.

And I know other QB's are mobile but the type of mobility that Griffin brings to the table actually results in running lanes being opened for our backs.