Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

Tannehill's bust potential is really high for me not because I don't think he can play, but because the comparisons being thrown out with Luck and Griffin are pointless. No one with the first overall pick in any draft would ever consider Ryan Tannehill with it.

I don't disagree with a coach who watches every snap Tannehill took at Texas A&M, sees a few advanced skills and things "I can certainly work with this." But you look at who NFL teams are trying so hard to replace at quarterback these days: Ryan Tannehill clones. It's so bizarre that teams are so desperate for quarterback upgrades that they'll consider quarterbacks who will inevitably need to be upgraded down the road.

The book on Tannehill is that you just need to sit in a cover two shell or something similar where you can defend the edges of the field. That's why I prefer guys like Foles and Cousins who can make more difficult bucket throws and can get the ball down the field. Foles and Cousins are far from sure things (though I think Foles is pretty safe if you buy into him being your guy...and there's no guarantee anyone will love him enough to start him) but I feel you can easily scheme out their weaknesses.

I suppose that you could do the same with Tannehill and try to give him open looks down the field, but his inability to throw at the Senior Bowl or Combine has simply left him unable to answer key questions about his downfield throwing, which was never impressive on tape, certainly not as impressive as his intermediate throwing.

The largest difference between Griffin and Tannehill is that when a defense starts to speed up RG3's clock and get a lot of pressure on him, he rises to the occasion. Tannehill just looks sped up.

[QUOTE=Lotus;889549]I think that the gap between RGIII and Tannehill is not as big as you make it out to be.[/QUOTE

Was that a joke????? If not, I laughed my ass off anyway!!!!!

I don't think it's that crazy. The fact is no one knows for sure, not even the so called experts who do this for a living. Who cares how high a guy can jump or how fast he can run. The last 10 Super Bowl winning QBs were Eli, Rodgers, Big Ben, Brees, Manning, Brad Johnson and Brady. Go back 2 more years and you can include Kurt Warner and Trent Dilfer.

Eli and Peyton were the only ones taken first overall. History tells us that it's highly likely that one or more QBs taken AFTER Luck and RGIII will go on to have similar or better careers. Why not Tannehill? Anything you think you know from their college tape or combine workouts could become irrelevant in a few years.

It's like they said in the Brady 6 documentary. No one could crack open his chest and look at his heart. What makes me laugh are the comments about long ball accuracy, arm strength, mobility, etc. it's all mostly BS. No one here knows for sure.

It could go either 2 ways as i see it with the QB situation. Mike needs to figure out the QB position to save his job and here are the 2 ways i see it happening.

1. He needs to either move up in the draft and get either Luck or Griffin or sell the owner and fan base on some other QB in this draft. This will buy him 2 more years, to develop and build around a young QB.

or

2. If manning is healthy sign him and hope he can play for 2 to 3 years. He can spend this years and next years draft to get him some help. And also draft a young QB to play behind manning.

If he brings in a Orton, signs a Flynn or trades for Hoyer and they have a less than .500 record he will be done.

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I don't think it's that crazy. The fact is no one knows for sure, not even the so called experts who do this for a living. Who cares how high a guy can jump or how fast he can run. The last 10 Super Bowl winning QBs were Eli, Rodgers, Big Ben, Brees, Manning, Brad Johnson and Brady. Go back 2 more years and you can include Kurt Warner and Trent Dilfer.

Eli and Peyton were the only ones taken first overall. History tells us that it's highly likely that one or more QBs taken AFTER Luck and RGIII will go on to have similar or better careers. Why not Tannehill? Anything you think you know from their college tape or combine workouts could become irrelevant in a few years.

No No No. I didnt mean it like that. I was still thinking of the periods being used as a measurment in some previous post that his post alludes to. I think Tannehill is going to be a top 10 QB in 2 or 3 years.

If it's true (http://tracking.si.com/2012/02/27/report-rams-will-trade-no-2-overall-pick-in-nfl-draft/) then how quickly did our F.O. get on the phone?

This will make things interesting.

After the combine, I think that RGIII may be worth the multiple draft picks - assuming that they don't overpay - I would prefer that the redskins only trade the 1st and 3rd this year and a 1st and maybe a 3rd next year.

Overpay or not, RGIII is worth it - not mainly based on his 40 time, but mostly how he handled himself and what he said with the media. He seems mature in his approach, personality, and demeanor. Although Cam Newton is very different from RGIII (even though others think they are similiar because they are both black and athletic), the one thing I remember that stands out with which they are most comparable at - at this point - is the confident and comfortable way they handled themselves in their spotlight with the media. The physical measureables only back up that they have the tools needed to be successful. I think that RGIII won't waste any time with showing that he's worth it by week 1 because that's what maturity brings - RGIII will know one of the shortest points between where he is now and nfl success.

The rest of the qbs still have to this to learn plus the x's and o's while RGIII can concentrate just on the x's and o's.

RGIII should be the Redskins' first option at this point.

Yes they will but they have not yet , I think It's going to Cleveland

If it's true (http://tracking.si.com/2012/02/27/report-rams-will-trade-no-2-overall-pick-in-nfl-draft/) then how quickly did our F.O. get on the phone?

This will make things interesting.

You forgot the 'will' part.

Kinda changes things a bit.

I heard the Redskins are offering a 1,2,3 this year and a 1st next year.

There is a huge gap between RG3 and Tannehill. He's only played 26 games as a QB. He's a converted WR. The guy is a project, not an NFL QB. I think most coaches and GMs would sell his stock right now. He's way overvalued.