Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

oh and I forgot to write in my earlier post but yes RGIII did jump. 39" vertical and 10' broad jump I believe.

OK lets say we give this years 1,2,3 and next years first.
Does the Warpath meltdown as a whole or rejoice?

I think if Manning can't get an assurance that we'll use the 6th overall pick to help him win games now, I doubt he even considers Washington. Just wouldn't be a good fit for him.

If Tannehill is good enough to go at no. 6, he should be playing over Manning anyway.

Well Tannehill is not really worth the 6th pick since he's not generally considered a guy that can step in and play right away. However, if they want him they may be forced to take him there. That's the way it goes with QB's.

I think if we presented Peyton with an aggressive free agency plan he would be less concerned with what we were doing with the 6th overall pick. He also knows the position and can probably watch one practice and realize that Tannehill is not a threat to his job any time soon. It would not be the same message drafting RG3 or Luck would be IMO.

LOL. Your right he did look good. Imagine how he'd look after going to the "Mens Wearhouse." lol.

But remember what happened to Kerrigan last year

At the combine

http://prod.static.49ers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/SF/photos/clubimages/2011/02-February/04kerrigan--nfl_large_580_1000.jpg


After being drafted

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/13973.png&w=350&h=254

My question is: Do Tannehill or Weeden have enough talent to be an option instead of trading all those picks? Are either that far behind RGIII in talent that they are not an option?

Yes. Take a moment to look at Griffin.

- Olympic level athlete
- Elite Arm Strength
- Downfield accuracy
- High IQ (likely over 140)
- High character
- Led Baylor....BAYLOR to a 9-3 season including wins over Oklahoma and Texas.
- 4 year starter...err 3.15 year starter.

Tannehill and Weeden, who ironically beat Baylor, have some of those characteristics but not all of them. Virtually anything they can do RGIII can do and he'll likely do it better.

Yes. Take a moment to look at Griffin.

- Olympic level athlete
- Elite Arm Strength
- Downfield accuracy
- High IQ (likely over 140)
- High character
- Led Baylor....BAYLOR to a 9-3 season including wins over Oklahoma and Texas.

Tannehill and Weeden, who ironically beat Baylor, have some of those characteristics but not all of them. Virtually anything they can do RGIII can do and he'll likely do it better.

I know that, but is he worth giving up all those players? Could Tannehill or Weeden have enough talent down the road like, say Rypien to win a championship.

What if it's some lower round pick like a Russell Wilson (or...Aaron Corp!!!!) or what if it's another team's "reject" a Josh Johnson or Jimmy Clausen for example?

I Like Clausen as a 3rd but not as our main prospect. I don't like the lower round QB route. The historical odds of hitting on one of those guys are severely stacked against it. Even 2nd round QB's are mostly busts. I think we need to come out of this draft with a serious QB prospect. And some of these guys choosing to go back to school has turned this into what looks like a pretty shallow QB class.

We are going into year 3 of Shanny/Allen...the time to say "oh well the QB we want didn't fall to us so lets wait another year" is long gone. I love Manning...but he's 36 or 37 and coming off an injury. We don't know for sure if were gonna get 5 games or 5 years out of him.

OK lets say we give this years 1,2,3 and next years first.
Does the Warpath meltdown as a whole or rejoice?

the obvious answer is some would be weeping and gnashing of teeth while others would be singing Hallelujah choirs. I would be in the hallelujah choir section.

Pro:
If we make that trade, it is an all in move. I can support that because, we need a consensus qb, that will not be questioned. That type of trade would mean RGIII is it. No JC question, is he or isn't he. Period end, This is the face of the Skins under the Shanny's (hair question aside).

Con:
More than just the 6th pick, we saw how BA maneuvered the 10th pick into a full meal of draftees. I would think if the 6th pick were ours, we could actively market it, and still get a 2nd tier qb, plus another bunch of picks.


For me I am sick of the yearly Skins offseason debate. Is [x] the qb or is he going. Is it the coach who's going, or the player. Give me some RGIII please.

It would be horrible and short sighted. If they sign Manning...IMO they need to draft Tannehill at #6 and not even fool around with it.

This is part of why i just want them to get RG3 and be done with it. I think signing Manning will take away all their aggressiveness to secure a long term QB upgrade. And that is one position that never just falls to you...teams routinely draft QB's higher then they are projected to go.

What if the 'skins sign RGIII and he gets hurt in preseason?

I Like Clausen as a 3rd but not as our main prospect. I don't like the lower round QB route. The historical odds of hitting on one of those guys are severely stacked against it. Even 2nd round QB's are mostly busts. I think we need to come out of this draft with a serious QB prospect. And some of these guys choosing to go back to school has turned this into what looks like a pretty shallow QB class.

We are going into year 3 of Shanny/Allen...the time to say "oh well the QB we want didn't fall to us so lets wait another year" is long gone. I love Manning...but he's 36 or 37 and coming off an injury. We don't know for sure if were gonna get 5 games or 5 years out of him.

Sorry I meant Manning and one of these guys...and then next year (ode to Dirtbag) we get a Barkley, Jones, Wilson, etc?