Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

Ultimately I'd prefer to go the Manning route too, save the picks, and spend wisely (and be aggressive) in free agency.

Sounds like interest is heating up around the league. I wonder if anything has changed regarding his arm strength.

Watching Jeff Saturday at the combine, you could tell he was really chomping at the bit when defending PM. He said he has no doubt PM is going to play this year, and play well. I know they're close and he could just be defending his friend, but at the same time it's safe to assume he knows more about how his recovery is going than most.

I have a RG3 man crush at the moment but Manning/Tannehill has always made a hell of a lot of sense also.

I have a RG3 man crush at the moment but Manning/Tannehill has always made a hell of a lot of sense also.

What if it's Manning/Status Quo vs. RG3?

Like suppose we couldn't/didn't make any QB move this year other than make Manning our new starter? So we don't add any young QB prospect this year

Well put we need to do something and PM is the safe route that still leaves us with a hole a QB in a couple of years.

Peyton Manning is dangerous and doesn't do much to solve the QB problem long term. Best case scenario we're a flash in the pan and 2 or 3 years later reach for someone like Ponder at 12.

What if it's Manning/Status Quo vs. RG3?

Like suppose we couldn't/didn't make any QB move this year other than make Manning our new starter? So we don't add any young QB prospect this year

Plan B should be trading for Hoyer on draft day if you ask me for a 3rd round pick.

How valuable are our draft picks on a team without a QB? People around here are more then willing to let McIntosh and Landry walk, both of whom cost us a first round pick. No one shed a tear either when Rogers walked and we couldn't wait to get rid of Campbell. Thats 4 first round picks and a 2nd in that group.

Also who shed a tear when Thomas and Kelly left, or Chad Rhinehart? Two 2nd's and a 3rd right there.

The stock up strategy is akin to thinking like the Dolphins in 2008 when they passed on Matt Ryan for the smart pick in Jake Long then handled the QB situation by drafting a promising second tier prospect in Chad Henne who is now all but gone. And sure maybe Ryan hasn't won a playoff game but last I checked the Falcons are winning games while the Dolphins are picking in the Top 10.

You know what all these draft savy teams have that allows them to stock up on picks? Quarterbacks. Franchise game changing QB's. Unless you're lucky odds are you won't get that from Tannehill, Foles, Weeden, Cousins, etc. And you certainly won't get it from Kyle Orton.Draft picks are equally valuable to teams who like their QB situation as they are to teams that don't like their quarterback situation. Who your quarterback is doesn't change how valuable a draft pick is.

I find it endlessly fascinating that you're all about the game changing quarterback, and yet you keep trotting out the Matt Ryan-in-2008 argument. It's mind boggling to me that you don't think that Tannehill, Foles, Cousins, Moore etc can be as good as Matt Ryan. If anything, the Falcons have proved that you sure can win 10 games a year with Tannehill or Foles.

The Falcons had a really good 2008 draft (Ryan, Lofton, Biermann, etc), one that helped to rebuild their franchise. Thing is, the Dolphins also had a good draft and that 2008 draft ended up being very weak for teams that didn't focus on running backs or quarterbacks, where it has produced very well.

But what you're totally forgetting about the Falcons is that despite having one of the smartest personnel guys in the league in Dimitroff, that's a team that isn't in a great cap situation anymore, hasn't fixed their defense, and is now caught hoping to a higher power that there's more to Matt Ryan than what they've gotten so far.

Ryan was great early in his career when the Falcons needed someone to make them forget Michael Vick. But now the Falcons only play is to pay Matt Ryan like an elite quarterback, and if he can't take Roddy White and Julio Jones and go light up the scoreboard, well, Brees and Newton are going to light up the Falcons for the next five seasons.

What if it's Manning/Status Quo vs. RG3?

Like suppose we couldn't/didn't make any QB move this year other than make Manning our new starter? So we don't add any young QB prospect this year

Blegh. That's a crappy scenario. I prefer RG3 right now, because the only way Manning makes sense is if we take someone to groom behind him.

What if he goes down 3 quarters into the season, having led us to a 9-3 season, and our only other options are Rex and Beck? And we get into the playoffs but get destroyed in our first game and we end up with a late first round draft pick, thus making the cost to move up and get our guy even greater?

Tripp the argument about Matt Ryan was more about passing up a chance at the first tier guys and thinking you can get the same type of quality in the second round with guys like Henne.

In 2012 terms it's like saying that instead of getting RG3 you can get the same quality player with Tannehill.

RGIII is far and beyond Matt Ryan as a prospect.

What if it's Manning/Status Quo vs. RG3?

Like suppose we couldn't/didn't make any QB move this year other than make Manning our new starter? So we don't add any young QB prospect this year

No can do. We should protect the short- and long-term by having both PM and a real developmental (i.e., not Curtis Painter) QB.

What if it's Manning/Status Quo vs. RG3?

Like suppose we couldn't/didn't make any QB move this year other than make Manning our new starter? So we don't add any young QB prospect this year

Not a fan of status quo. I think it has to be all in on either RG3 or Luck --- or Manning/Tannehill (or other rookie the staff feels comfortable to groom for 2-3 years down the road).

Blegh. That's a crappy scenario. I prefer RG3 right now, because the only way Manning makes sense is if we take someone to groom behind him.

What if he goes down 3 quarters into the season, having led us to a 9-3 season, and our only other options are Rex and Beck? And we get into the playoffs but get destroyed in our first game and we end up with a late first round draft pick, thus making the cost to move up and get our guy even greater?

What if RGIII has a Joe Theisman leg break 3 quarters into the season? He's lost and so are all those draft picks. I think that's a much worse situation than having Manning go down and having to revert to the status quo.