Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)


SKINSnCANES
02-27-2012, 12:41 AM
Yep. Manning for me. I just don't know if this is the guy. I like the kid, good college skills, but to be honest this whole deal is a big gamble and if it fails we are left with out some ammo for talent.

I would prefer to keep our picks and gamble cash on Manning then gamble 2 years of high draft picks.

I would still almost consider trading Rak and drafting a better fit for an OLB in our 3-4 with that pick, despite not moving up to draft RGIII.

Don't get me wrong, even if we get Manning, if RG3 falls for some reason I'm happy to take him. Or at that point id even be happy getting a ransom from another team looking to move up. Everyone says it won't happen but you never know with the draft.

Dirtbag59
02-27-2012, 12:55 AM
Yep. Manning for me. I just don't know if this is the guy. I like the kid, good college skills, but to be honest this whole deal is a big gamble and if it fails we are left with out some ammo for talent.

I would prefer to keep our picks and gamble cash on Manning then gamble 2 years of high draft picks.

I would still almost consider trading Rak and drafting a better fit for an OLB in our 3-4 with that pick, despite not moving up to draft RGIII.

I understand people saying RGIII is a gamble but I think that gamble is only really medical as his playing style is risky. In terms of potential impact he's about as safe as you can get at the QB position.

As I've pointed out before Michael Vick sucked as a QB in Atlanta. Could barely complete over 55% of his passes if that, never threw for over 3,000 yards, didn't study the playbook, etc. And yet the Falcons won games and were almost unstoppable on the ground. And all this with a guy that was basically running around with his head cut off.

Now throw in a 140 IQ, great work ethic, 65%+ accuracy, with Vick's arm and speed in an offense that puts him on the move and reassess the risk.

I admit there is a risk that he might have problem transitioning from a spread style offense to a pro style making traditional reads but even if he fails in that area as bad as Vick did we'll still win games. Downside is we won't win the Super Bowl but almost anything is better then these post 1991 years.

Bottom line, truly athleticly-gifted QB's will always find success in this league. How much success will be determined by how they develop as passers but ironically the floor is higher then that of any traditional pocket passer.

artmonkforhallofamein07
02-27-2012, 01:15 AM
Don't get me wrong, even if we get Manning, if RG3 falls for some reason I'm happy to take him. Or at that point id even be happy getting a ransom from another team looking to move up. Everyone says it won't happen but you never know with the draft.

Completely agree.

I suppose Dirt, I just don't think we can say he is a sure fire success. I am not at that point. I watched some of his games. He has skill for sure, but will it all translate. Will he get blasted at some point and be done for a few games? Who knows maybe I am wrong.

Ruhskins
02-27-2012, 01:20 AM
I must say, while I think it is nice that RG3 ran such a good 40 time...in a way I don't know how that makes him more valuable. The guy is a QB...yes it is nice to have a fast QB and he'd become a double threat, but he is still a QB. Cam Newton ran a 4.6 40 and he is a double threat. In the end, I want RG3 to be a good passer and decision maker, which I am sure he can do. I just thing that people are too enamored with the 40 in this situation.

MTK
02-27-2012, 01:24 AM
I must say, while I think it is nice that RG3 ran such a good 40 time...in a way I don't know how that makes him more valuable. The guy is a QB...yes it is nice to have a fast QB and he'd become a double threat, but he is still a QB. Cam Newton ran a 4.6 40 and he is a double threat. In the end, I want RG3 to be a good passer and decision maker, which I am sure he can do. I just thing that people are too enamored with the 40 in this situation.

Well it confirms what we already knew, he's a great athlete.

In the end thought it's just your typical combine hype, something to talk about until some real news comes along.

Swarley
02-27-2012, 01:26 AM
I think it's also the fact that people were doubting he would run that fast or actually clear 6' 2" that has people talking so much. Couple that with his (by all accounts) stellar interviews and the hype is obvious.

The Falcons have no first round pick. If they traded any of their other picks they'd have no draft left.

oops, forgot they traded away the farm last year.

Dirtbag59
02-27-2012, 01:27 AM
I must say, while I think it is nice that RG3 ran such a good 40 time...in a way I don't know how that makes him more valuable. The guy is a QB...yes it is nice to have a fast QB and he'd become a double threat, but he is still a QB. Cam Newton ran a 4.6 40 and he is a double threat. In the end, I want RG3 to be a good passer and decision maker, which I am sure he can do. I just thing that people are too enamored with the 40 in this situation.

Well between the tape and his olympic background we already knew he was fast. His 40 time just helped confirmed that.

It's like when you take a test that you're completely prepared for and you feel comfortable with all the questions. You're pretty sure afterwards you got an A you just don't know how high until your teacher gives you the results.

Ruhskins
02-27-2012, 01:33 AM
Well it confirms what we already knew, he's a great athlete.

In the end thought it's just your typical combine hype, something to talk about until some real news comes along.

Good point. I must say, I am more looking forward to seeing his pro day, Luck's too.

MTK
02-27-2012, 01:34 AM
I think it's also the fact that people were doubting he would run that fast or actually clear 6' 2" that has people talking so much. Couple that with his (by all accounts) stellar interviews and the hype is obvious.

yup, he proved he was worth the hype

SBXVII
02-27-2012, 02:05 AM
The latter, and not a team you'd expect

My least expected team would be Dallas, or any NFCE team. Outside of that I can't imagine the Skins shiipping him off to a team in the NFC who we might have to play at some point so my guess would be an AFC team.

I wish I could do the 7 degrees of Brian Orakpo but I got nothing.

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