Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

giants dont need another pass rusher i wouldnt think, but ya never know

I'm gonna guess the Falcons. The need help rushing the passer but it's not an obvious choice.

The Falcons have no first round pick. If they traded any of their other picks they'd have no draft left.

giants dont need another pass rusher i wouldnt think, but ya never know

well Umenyiora may not be back and they have Tollefson headed to FA, so it definitely could happen because they love DL flexibility, the problem is that we wouldn't trade a great pass rusher to a division rival, but you wouldn't think that about philly and mcnabb so you never know!

What if we could pick up a much more rock solid-y-er starter like Mario Williams?i like williams, but i don't see a need for him here. i see a greater need in the secondary

i like williams, but i don't see a need for him here. i see a greater need in the secondary

If the Texans don't keep Williams, he'd likely go to a 4-3 team.

So what do you suggest the Redskins do at QB until draft day if RG3 is who they really want? Do they do nothing and hope to win this stare down with the Rams? Do they blow 20 mil of this years cap room on Manning when they really want RG3? As of now John Beck is their only QB on the roster. Maybe making the trade now costs an extra pick or two but it also saves a bunch of wasted cap dollars on unneeded contingency plans...That's a fair point, and I wasn't really trying to advise the Redskins to wait. Rather I was simply pointing out that I don't believe there is any merit to the argument that if the Redskins wait, they won't be able to get RG3 later.

As long as the Browns are as non-committal about moving up as they currently are, the Redskins (not the Rams) control the action. The Rams are not *representing* the RG3 pick. Before we can conclude that RG3 is definitely going to be the second pick, the Rams would have to come out and at least bluff the fact that they are going to take him in that slot if they don't get a deal to their liking. At that point, you'd have to at least honor the fact that you have to go through the Rams to get RG3 because if you don't, he's going to quarterback the Rams next year.

Fisher's not doing that though. He said he's going to deal the pick to highest bidder. Right now, that's the Redskins. So the Redskins, not the Rams, hold the cards right now.

That can change of course. If the Dolphins were to offer their entire 2012 draft plus their 2013 first rounder for the second pick, they'd probably get RG3. But that was never not the case. Any team who wants to double market value can have the pick. They won't have enough talent around him to win, but they can have him.

I'm not saying the Redskins should definitely wait out the Rams here, and I'm not saying they shouldn't make the trade now. I am saying that it's not necessary that they agree to terms at the combine, or they'll never have another chance to get him.

But a lot of things can swing the market in the Redskins favor: Flynn might leave Green Bay, Manning might leave Indy, Kolb could hit the market again, Tannehill might shoot the lights out at his pro day. Kellen Moore might show up to his pro day completely jacked (well, maybe not that last one). The Redskins can call their shot here, and probably should.

I haven't posted much recently but Id by lying if I said I haven't hit refresh on a 'QB Rumors' thread 5000 times... Id prefer a thread that didn't start with rumor...

With all the talk and hype about RG3 today I actually find myself leaning more towards Manning. I didn't want Mannig before but he seems like he'll be 100% this year. Yes he can't be our QB for 10 years, but if you look at if for 3 years think about how much better we would be. For the time being we would have a QB. Then we would also have at least 3 first round picks, and a 2nd and 3rd (average trade value I've seen for moving up for RG3)

Id LOVE to have RGIII. But RG3 over Manning and possibly 5 other starters...it just seems like too much to move up a few spots...

It's possible though that the Redskins are just trying to pressure a team into showing their hand the way that some owners will leak information about a potential move to see how it will be received.

I haven't posted much recently but Id by lying if I said I haven't hit refresh on a 'QB Rumors' thread 5000 times... Id prefer a thread that didn't start with rumor...

With all the talk and hype about RG3 today I actually find myself leaning more towards Manning. I didn't want Mannig before but he seems like he'll be 100% this year. Yes he can't be our QB for 10 years, but if you look at if for 3 years think about how much better we would be. For the time being we would have a QB. Then we would also have at least 3 first round picks, and a 2nd and 3rd (average trade value I've seen for moving up for RG3)

Id LOVE to have RGIII. But RG3 over Manning and possibly 5 other starters...it just seems like too much to move up a few spots...

Yep. Manning for me. I just don't know if this is the guy. I like the kid, good college skills, but to be honest this whole deal is a big gamble and if it fails we are left with out some ammo for talent.

I would prefer to keep our picks and gamble cash on Manning then gamble 2 years of high draft picks.

I would still almost consider trading Rak and drafting a better fit for an OLB in our 3-4 with that pick, despite not moving up to draft RGIII.

That is one of the best quotes I have seen in a long damn time! Thanks for the laugh!

Your welcome!

I was proud of that one. lol