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EARTHQUAKE2689 02-16-2012, 05:19 PM Next years class [Always]> This Years Class
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Because your a doctor and I'm a lawyer. I don't wanna fix people, I wanna get them outta jail.
EARTHQUAKE2689 02-16-2012, 05:20 PM This is for you NC_Skins:
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GTripp0012 02-16-2012, 05:21 PM Looking at the most recent 20 SuperBowl Champion Quaterbacks:
- 12 of those games were won by a QB drafted in the 1st round within the first 11 picks. (including Steve Young in the Supplemental draft after coming from the USFL)
- 9 of those Super Bowls were won by a QB chosen 1st overall (Incl. Young)
- 15 were won by Quaterbacks who were drafted within the top 33 picks overall (after you account for Favre, Brees and Rodgers)
- 3 were won by Tom Brady (yes we know...drafted 199th overall)
- The other 2 were Kurt Warner and Brad Johnson.
- 3 were won by a QB who was acquired via free agency. (Brees, Dilfer, Brad Johnson)(excluding Warner who was in the Arena league prior to the Rams).
Summary:
60% of the Super Bowls were won by a QB drafted high in the 1st Round.
3 out of 4 were won by QB's drafted in the top 33 picks.
10% were won by FA QB's with an historically great defense.
1 was one by a free agent QB without a great defense.
1 was one by a once in a generation Cinderella Story (Warner)
You have a great chance to win with a late round "developmental QB"....if his name is Tom Brady.
My hope:
We draft our guy high in the 1st round.Most of the quarterbacks in the league -- good or bad -- were first round picks. If you have a starting QB who wasn't picked in the first round, you're already in a pretty severe minority. Knowing where they were drafted isn't predictive of QB quality, unless your universe is ALL quarterbacks drafted. Because later round picks tend to be backups and let go out of the league where first rounders keep getting picked up to get additional chances (some successful).
So saying that there is a tendency for highly drafted quarterbacks to win the super bowl is sort of like pointing out that the highest paid coaching staffs tend to win the super bowl. It's very true, but when you compete at the highest level, you kind of expect the alpha types to make it to the top. And you don't consider it science when they do. That was the whole idea.
With that said, research shows that the late round picks who do last a long time in the league are just as good once they are veteran quarterbacks as are first round picks. But the reason that first round picks have much longer careers is that lesser prospects aren't around for their 6th, 7th, and 8th years, when QBs are in their prime.
I'll give you an example: Dan Orlovsky is probably one of the 30 best NFL quarterbacks. He was out of the league for two years. Curtis Painter was employed by a team during this time Orlovsky was out of the league. The biggest difference: Curtis Painter is a 3rd year player. Orlovsky was a 7th year player. Painter is probably going to be out of the NFL next year.
Ruhskins 02-16-2012, 05:22 PM Long and corny way to say....get our QB of the future and build around him while we develop him. Don't be afraid to multi-task.
Well you wouldn't be able to surround the young QB with a lot of new talent this season (since you'd be giving up picks), but possibly the next season.
los panda 02-16-2012, 05:23 PM Would this team be able to win more games than this past season's team:
QB: RG3(starter), Clausen (backup)
RB: Helu, Hightower, Royster
FB: Young
TEs: Cooley, Davis, Paulsen
WR 1: (VJax, Bowe, or Colston) WR 2: Hank WR 3: Moss or Gaffney
OT: T. Williams, Free Agent RT
OG: Chester, Grubbs
C: Montgomeryyes
EARTHQUAKE2689 02-16-2012, 05:23 PM Would this team be able to win more games than this past season's team:
QB: RG3(starter), Clausen (backup)
RB: Helu, Hightower, Royster
FB: Young
TEs: Cooley, Davis, Paulsen
WR 1: (VJax, Bowe, or Colston) WR 2: Hank WR 3: Moss or Gaffney
OT: T. Williams, Free Agent RT
OG: Chester, Grubbs
C: Montgomery
Hell yes, and I have been saying that for a while now.
Dirtbag59 02-16-2012, 05:23 PM Apparently you haven't been keeping up with Smoot's reports on how the Redskins feel about RGIII. They like him, but not enough to sell the farm.
And there are sources that point to the Redskins going after Griffin. Granted I would bet on them signing Peyton at this point but it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility that they will trade up for RGIII.
According to Carol Ross Joynt of the Washingtonian, Redskins president of operations Dennis Greene was overheard telling people at a luncheon that a new quarterback has been chosen “and fans will be elated.” He said the players name won’t be revealed until April’s NFL draft.
Haslett “Insider” Confirms Chat « CBS DC (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/02/08/haslett-insider-confirms-discussion/)
Denny posted numerous tidbits, including the Skins not being interested in free agent QB Matt Flynn, their strong interest in trading up to the second overall pick and more. Haslett has come out and denied the story, which Denny understands.
Denny, a pastor, went on to defend himself from critics who don’t believe his story, admitting he only thought he was only writing to “two or three hundred friends of mine.”
They are strongly considering trading up with St. Louis Rams. He said, they have already talked with Jeff Fisher about the possibility. He did not elaborate on the details, other than to say they had talked with Fisher and are serious about getting a good QB. So again, I am eating crow, since I thought the Redskins would trade down for extra picks. They are not trading down, since they do not believe the QB's in the later rounds are talented enough to lead the team. Haslett believes the team is good enough to win, if they just had one of the two talented QB's at top.
Dirtbag59 02-16-2012, 05:26 PM Because your a doctor and I'm a lawyer. I don't wanna fix people, I wanna get them outta jail.
Exactly. By the way that jerk I operated on last week wants to sue me. Said surfing the web on my smart phone during emergency surgery counts as Malpractice.
Son Of Man 02-16-2012, 05:28 PM Well you wouldn't be able to surround the young QB with a lot of new talent this season (since you'd be giving up picks), but possibly the next season.
...and the season after that...and the season after that....and
Son Of Man 02-16-2012, 05:30 PM Most of the quarterbacks in the league -- good or bad -- were first round picks. If you have a starting QB who wasn't picked in the first round, you're already in a pretty severe minority. Knowing where they were drafted isn't predictive of QB quality, unless your universe is ALL quarterbacks drafted. Because later round picks tend to be backups and let go out of the league where first rounders keep getting picked up to get additional chances (some successful).
So saying that there is a tendency for highly drafted quarterbacks to win the super bowl is sort of like pointing out that the highest paid coaching staffs tend to win the super bowl. It's very true, but when you compete at the highest level, you kind of expect the alpha types to make it to the top. And you don't consider it science when they do. That was the whole idea.
With that said, research shows that the late round picks who do last a long time in the league are just as good once they are veteran quarterbacks as are first round picks. But the reason that first round picks have much longer careers is that lesser prospects aren't around for their 6th, 7th, and 8th years, when QBs are in their prime.
I'll give you an example: Dan Orlovsky is probably one of the 30 best NFL quarterbacks. He was out of the league for two years. Curtis Painter was employed by a team during this time Orlovsky was out of the league. The biggest difference: Curtis Painter is a 3rd year player. Orlovsky was a 7th year player. Painter is probably going to be out of the NFL next year.
Not disagreeing with you...just showing the data.
In my business we have a saying: "Men lie, women lie, numbers don't lie."
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