Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

I meant Manning with last year's roster, with no additions and whatnot. Better?


I know I was pulling your chain.

I think a argument could be made if we have left in Rex we would have finished 9-7.

Yeah but that is today's NFL, no one is really getting blown out that often. So saying you lost by 7 or 8 doesn't hold water that you are on the verge of being a good team.

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By your own argument, if Peyton Manning is worth 7 points a game (either through offensive scores or fewer turnovers), we will win 4-6 more games. That would make us a playoff contender.

Hint of sarcasm? yes-no?

Funny I can see him thinking the other way. Especially with Montana having spoken to him telling him how good MS is along with the OL being blocking better, and 3 really decent RB's who did very well in the second half of the season. I can see him saying if they take me and pick up 1 or top WR's from free agency, draft a young QB, pick up another WR, get some OL and fix the couple of holes they have on defense the Skins could go pretty far. I think he's pretty smart too to recognize a team that is on the verge of becoming great and might want to be apart of that.

No sarcasm, I was calling it like I see it. All it takes is watching the playoffs to see how far away the Skins are. Its like playoff teams are playing one game and the Skins something altogether different. You name about 6 things that need fixed just get get the team competitive, That's not a team on the verge. I just dont see him wanting to go with a team that is so far away. PM knows he has maybe 3 years left at best and needs to go to a team that is only a QB away from winning it all. He wants to win next year not in a few years after multiple holes get filled.

Would I like to see him in DC, yes I would. Do I think he will sign here, no I dont.

No sarcasm, I was calling it like I see it. All it takes is watching the playoffs to see how far away the Skins are. Its like playoff teams are playing one game and the Skins something altogether different. You name about 6 things that need fixed just get get the team competitive, That's not a team on the verge. I just dont see him wanting to go with a team that is so far away. PM knows he has maybe 3 years left at best and needs to go to a team that is only a QB away from winning it all. He wants to win next year not in a few years after multiple holes get filled.

Would I like to see him in DC, yes I would. Do I think he will sign here, no I dont.

I think you make some fair points here. Honestly, the reason I have made all of these Manning comments is because of what I've heard here and in the media about this place being a possible destination (and not the typical "oh let's throw the Redskins name in there since this is a big time free agent").

A healthy Manning would undoubtedly make a big difference, add in the draft and $50M to spend on free agents and this team could be a lot better in a hurry.

A healthy Manning would undoubtedly make a big difference, add in the draft and $50M to spend on free agents and this team could be a lot better in a hurry.


Said also the 2011 Philadelphia Eagles and the 2000 Washington Redskins...


As Redskins fans we should learn it is never that easy.

By your own argument, if Peyton Manning is worth 7 points a game (either through offensive scores or fewer turnovers), we will win 4-6 more games. That would make us a playoff contender.


I never said PM could give us 7 more points a game with this team.


Bringing PM here and asking him to win the Super Bowl for us would be the same as asking Micheal Phelps to win the 100m Butterfly in a pool with no water.

Said also the 2011 Philadelphia Eagles and the 2000 Washington Redskins...


As Redskins fans we should learn it is never that easy.

You're obviously intent on shooting down anything suggesting the Skins could be much improved in 2012.

Who pissed in your wheaties today?

This is easily the best thread so far this year.

One comment: it's very difficult to add a bunch of new pieces though FA and the draft with immediate (same year) results. It just doesn't happen often. PM would be an instant upgrade...huge upgrade. The other FA additions are big ?. We could spend a hell of a lot on offense FA guys and not get much bang for the buck, just as we spent a small fortune last season on defense FA guys like Bowen and Turd Ferguson for marginal impact.

I don't think you can win with him anymore because he is not healthy. If he was truly healthy and his old self the Colts keep him and trade that pick for a king's ransom.

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

No one knows if he will be healthy including the Colts. The point was if he is healthy then he would make the Redskins or anyone else a contender.