Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice


Dirtbag59
02-13-2012, 11:05 PM
Damn, I mean Wayne is good but Peyton's arm is ridiculous.
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Ruhskins
02-13-2012, 11:10 PM
Damn, I mean Wayne is good but Peyton's arm is ridiculous.


If we have Peyton, we better have good interior linemen. It seems that he always has a pocket to step into in a lot of those throws.

Here are some Colston highlights...

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GMScud
02-13-2012, 11:20 PM
Yeah like 5 years ago before MS and BA were here. But there may be some truth about Wayne and PM being a package deal. Personally I would rather have one of the younger FA WRs like Colston or Bowe.




Yeah but do you think there would be much of a drop off between Brees and Manning? I would understand this argument if we were having a rookie like RG3 or Orton throwing to Colston. My only concern about Colston is his health. Otherwise, I think the guy is a beast, without the attitude issues that Bowe has or the off field troubles that VJax has.

Well, IF Peyton is who he's always been, then no, I don't think there would be much of a drop off. I just have serious doubts he'll ever have the arm he did pre-neck fusion surgery. I mean, he apparently can't throw to his left and has no velocity.

CultBrennan59
02-13-2012, 11:29 PM
If we have Peyton, we better have good interior linemen. It seems that he always has a pocket to step into in a lot of those throws.

Here are some Colston highlights...

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A lot of MC's plays are Brees hitting him where only he can get to the ball. Peyton, IF healthy, can do that. MC isn't exactly the flashy WR that Dwayne Bowe or DeSean is, but he gets the job done, and is NOT a headcase like most of the FA WR's this year.

Lotus
02-13-2012, 11:33 PM
Look at us, talking like Peyton Manning is our QB. Now there's a change.

30gut
02-13-2012, 11:39 PM
Cofield would be a much better player as a DE (especially if Carriker is gone) and Soliai would be a much better fit as a NT. The only reason we are probably not get him is because of money (and for some reason JH/MS refuse to get a true 3-4 NT).Can you imagine a DL rotation of Soliai NT, Cofield, Bowen, Jarvis Jenkins, Nield?

That would push our front 3 and front 7 into the upper echelon of 3-4 defenses.

The Goat
02-14-2012, 12:43 AM
Also this. The only thing I don't like is Colston's age. I hope I'm wrong on this but I believe he's 28 or 29, and his injury history doesn't bode well for his future. When healthy he's a very solid wideout.

Good points. Colston could also be more of a product of his specific system than VJax or Bowe as well. Those guys possess superior athleticism to Colston IMO.

...really tough call though. I don't envy our front office when it comes to legitimizing our WR corp. QB is easy though I could pick winners at that all day long ;)

The Goat
02-14-2012, 12:45 AM
He'll be 29 when the season starts. I like him, but I also wonder how much of his success is a function of Drew Brees and that offense. I'll put it this way, I don't think his best years are ahead of him.

Damn it I didn't see this when I posted the same thing...you're super smart though scud keep up the good work!

The Goat
02-14-2012, 12:49 AM
That's a very important question too. I would hope if we signed Manning he'd be able to duplicate his production. But the question of how successful he'll be without Brees won't be able to be answered before he signs with another team. Quite honestly I'm not a big fan of this FA WR class. There are playmakers in it, but I don't see any of them having a long term future of the team that signs them. And all have significant question marks. That's why if we do upgrade wide receiver, I hope we go the draft route.

But if we did sign Manning, I wouldn't be opposed to Colston too much simply because Colston should be able to be productive while Manning plays, which I'd be comfortable with. I don't think Colston is one of those guys who can play into his late 30's though.

What about, assuming we sign PM, drafting our #1 WR at 6? Seems like every season a rookie WR busts the conventional wisdom it takes years to adjust to the pros. Is Julio Jones worth a 6th overall pick?

Indeed.

Ruhskins
02-14-2012, 12:56 AM
Since we are talking about these three guys (although I know there's another thread). I thought I would post the scouting report on these guys...

VJax, 6'5" 230 lbs:
Jackson has developed into one of the league's most dangerous all-purpose receivers. He has excellent size and above-average-to-good downfield speed. He does not look like he is running all that fast but with his long stride he manages to eat up a lot of ground. He has excellent body control and hand-eye coordination and knows how to use his size in a crowd. He should command a lot of attention in this year's free agent market.

Bowe 6'2" 221 lbs:
Bowe has shown flashes of brilliance but has also struggled to maintain consistency. He is a very talented receiver with excellent size and above-average straight-line speed and receiving skills. He is explosive off the line and can eat up the cushion on defenders. He has the ability to drop his hips to get in and out of his breaks with a good burst to separate from defenders. He shows strength both when catching the ball in traffic and when running after the catch.

Colston 6'4" 225 lbs:
Colston is a good-sized receiver with adequate downfield speed that can make plays at virtually every level of the field. He is a long strider that eats up ground as he closes the cushion on defenders and is an excellent route runner that knows how to set defenders up and has the ability to sink his hips to get in and out of his breaks with a good burst. He knows how to use his size and strength to catch the ball in traffic, and will extend and get good elevation to high point the ball. He has natural hands that allow him to catch the ball outside of his frame and he consistently puts the ball away quickly when turning after the catch.

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