Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

3,000+ posts in just over a year.

Someone needs a social life...
No, social networking doesn't count.

Matty, Smoot, I think he's talking to you two.
:silly:



C'mon guy? Insults? Dude, most of my posts come at work. Yes, I get paid to post on the Warpath and it comes compliments of the taxpayers. Does that make you mad bro? :cool-smil

That's cool. I don't have a hard argument. I'm just more optimistic than you are than one of those guys could inspire a trade-down scenario for us.

I'm also more optimistic than many people here that RGIII will be there at 6.

I would love to be proved wrong and get RG3 at 6

That's cool. I don't have a hard argument. I'm just more optimistic than you are than one of those guys could inspire a trade-down scenario for us.

I'm also more optimistic than many people here that RGIII will be there at 6.

I don't think I'm as optimistic as you are about RG3 being there at 6, but I think it's a believable scenario. And if it does happen, we better take him. *shakes fist*. But if the FO used that potential scenario to trade down and get more picks to help Peyton out, I'd be comfortable with that too. But if we had any other FA qb instead of Peyton and RG3 fell to us, well then I'd definitely want us to take him.

Man this is a tough decision. I say pick up Peyton if he is close to 100%. The Skins can't pass up the once in a lifetime chance. I like RgIII if he falls to six. It's not a wise move to give up that many picks for one player. We have way too many holes to fill.

[quote=SBXVII;884329]

Okay so we will continue on the wait for a QB to fall from the sky plan. Everything is a risk...there are no guarantees...but the only thing thats certain is that we are not winning until we find a QB.

To answer your question...if the Rams don't want to trade and want to draft RG3 for themselves then I would do 3 cartwheels and offer them the #6 pick for Bradford.

No, rumor last week was the Shanahans were not really infatuated with any of the QB's this year other then Luck and he will be taken by the Colts. They were interested in Barkely but as we all know he stayed in college.

Now there are several ways to build a team and a couple of the most common is to take a QB, then build around him. If this was the Shanahan's first year I'd argue for this method. However there is another way in which the team builds the OL and gets all the supporting cast then pulls the trigger on a QB who will not have as big a learning curve because the supporting cast is already in place. Since we've already waisted 2 years collecting talent and not getting our "franchise" QB, on top of that the coaching staff not infatuated with the QB class, I could see this team taking another year to collect their weapons and next year going all in for Barkely.

and no, if the Rams don't think he's franchise material why would we want him? clearly he was a high draft pick that they couldn't get to work out. So why do we want to waist our time with him. Unless you want to go through another Grossman or Beck situation.

The point is vick is not a traditional passer and has rare talents but can never make the throw needed to be clutch. Rg3 is very similar to that and it's why I'd be worried ntm running qb s don't last long

There are more "traditional" passers who haven't proven to be clutch than "non-traditional" ones.

He does? He's a pocket passer with the ability to scramble and has Michael Vick type speed. Cam Newton runs a lot, Early Michael Vick runs a lot. RGIII doesn't play like either one of them really. Since when is being able to evade pressure a knock.

While I think RGIII is leap years above Cam and Vick in terms of where they were as a prospect, he does still run a bit. He averaged 13 attempts per game but only had a paltry 3.9 average. However, he put up over 4,200 yard passing in 13 games as well. That's incredible. Were they allowed to continue playing during halftime or something?...lol


I love the kid though. He's smart (best part I like), he's charismatic, he's athletic, he's accurate, he's got arm strength.

Why RG3 will succeed in the NFL and the real reason some think he won't... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/761st_Tank_Battalion_(United_States))

It's the Patton principle.

Lets look at a different view, what if both QB RG3 and peyton fails, this will be the consequence. in RG3 we will loose future draft picks. in peyton, we will only loose dan's money, and will keep both our picks this year (probably a stud OL or WR) and next year (another QB prospect in Barkley)

Why RG3 will succeed in the NFL and the real reason some think he won't... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/761st_Tank_Battalion_(United_States))

You playing the race card bro?


http://www.frigginrandom.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/race-card-535x433.jpg