Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice


celts32
02-11-2012, 12:30 PM
If we traded down from #6 to the 12-15 range, we likely could still get Tannehill and have extra picks to boot.

Manning + Tannehill + extra picks = WIN

Possible but who is there at #6 that will cause someone to make that move up? Only person i can envision is RG3 but then i would want to stay there and draft him.

celts32
02-11-2012, 12:32 PM
On the bright side the cost to move up in the 2nd round or the end of the first is nothing compared to the cost of moving from the 6th pick to the first or second overall.

It would likely cause us next years #1 pick to move up from our #2 to somewhere in the 20's to take Tannehill. And if I am giving up next years #1 then i want RG3.

Lotus
02-11-2012, 12:57 PM
Possible but who is there at #6 that will cause someone to make that move up? Only person i can envision is RG3 but then i would want to stay there and draft him.

Claiborne, Blackmon, Richardson, Coples, Rieff, Floyd...one of these guys could fall to 6 and have someone jonesing for them. It just takes one smitten team.

musicmaster45
02-11-2012, 01:10 PM
I voted for RG3 the thing is its all about the deal. If the Rams try to trade rape us then no.... Yes i want a young quarterback and yes RG3 would be great but were not good enough to have a draft of nobody. We need another solid draft and a guy like RG3 to be relevant. I'm actually hoping for a trade down with anyone to either draft Tannehill or Weeden. Yes they won't be at good at first but we need just be patient and develop them.

whistler
02-11-2012, 01:12 PM
It's not as simple as asking to choose between RGIII and Peyton. The real question is which package would you rather have?


Which would you choose?


Package A:

1) RGIII


Package B:
1) Peyton Manning (while using 3rd rounder to draft Kirk Cousins)
2) Reily Reiff -OT (1st)
3) Alfonso Denard-CB (2nd)
4) Lucas Nix -OG (4th)

5) Manti Te'o - ILB (2013 1st)
6) Orhian Johnson -SS (2013 4th)

This is not an acccurate assesment of what is needed to get RGIII. If RGIII is picked by the skins they could still have their remaining picks this year under one scenario.
1) RGIII
2)2012 2nd rounder
3)2012 3rd rounder
4)2012 4th rounder
5)2012 5th rounder
6)2012 6th rounder
Would all still be available for the skins

They would probably have to surrender the 2012 1st, 2013 1st, and possibly Orakpo to make this happen, But in no way would they have to surrender the whole 2012 draft to get RGIII, that is ridiculous. No one is considering that Orakpo has possibly peaked and is very tradable at this point. Jeff Fisher would probably see this deal as 3 first rounders for the no.2 pick this year. Very doable.

skinsfan69
02-11-2012, 01:17 PM
How about neither. Manning's probably done or too risky to take a chance on. To move up and get RG3 means parting with multiple draft picks. It's very simple. This team isn't winning the Super Bowl next year with either player. Keep your picks and keep having productive drafts. That's the only way this team is going to have a shot at being becoming a constant winner.

NYCskinfan82
02-11-2012, 01:39 PM
If we have to choose 1, that is the question pick 1, then PM because we get to keep picks & possibly trade back & pick up more picks and draft talent & depth the 2011 draft spoiled me.

SBXVII
02-11-2012, 01:42 PM
Exactly. It baffles me that a fan base that has not had a franchise QB in almost 30 years is worried about 3 draft picks. We are still building the right way. Giving up 3 extra draft picks to solve a generation long QB problem does not mean that Vinny is coming back...

It baffles me that RGIII is the only QB who is or will turn out to be a franchise QB not only out of this draft but future drafts as well. We have not even seen him play. What happens when you draft him and he failed to grasp the footwork for back peddling from the center? Or fails to grasp the pro style of play?

I guess it's nice to have all those FA's, with no one but Grossman to throw to them.

skinsfan69
02-11-2012, 01:48 PM
I'm borrowing from Smootsmack:

Reasons for Peyton Manning to want to come here

-He respects Shanahan and knows Shanahan is an established, Super Bowl winning head coach

-Redskins have the cap flexibility to be active in free agency and the draft picks to be active in the draft

-He (supposedly) prefer the East Coast

-He enjoys the spotlight

-He's very tight with an executive in the organization

Who?

skinsfan69
02-11-2012, 01:52 PM
It baffles me that RGIII is the only QB who is or will turn out to be a franchise QB not only out of this draft but future drafts as well. We have not even seen him play. What happens when you draft him and he failed to grasp the footwork for back peddling from the center? Or fails to grasp the pro style of play?

I guess it's nice to have all those FA's, with no one but Grossman to throw to them.

To me Girffin looks like a young Michael Vick with a MUCH better head on his shoulders. I don't think he'll have a problem with his footwork or being under center. If Vick can do it then so can he. He'll have to take real deep drops like Vick does. I just think whoever gets him is going to have to design an offense like Philly has done. A lot of deep stuff and staying in shotgun a lot.

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